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Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by alasdair_ »

bushbaba wrote: post #355
lelandfe wrote: post #298

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> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

Funny as stadia might have seen huge adoption IF they didn’t have a reputation of killing services and leaving the service user to hang. Killing of stadia only reaffirms peoples fear to use google products. This includes GCP.

Exactly. Google has such a strong reputation for killing products now that I’m just now willing to invest in anything they create any more.

IMO they need to fix the internal corporate culture and move it away from short-term OKR goals and promotions based on launching new stuff and a bit more towards helping to maintain and grow existing projects.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by nickthegreek »

duped wrote: post #330
nickthegreek wrote: post #80

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I had already tried Stadia with Cyberpunk, which was a great experience and better than the console launch of the game. So I actually preordered 2 copies of the Baldurs Gate 3, as I wanted to play with my wife who does not have a gaming computer. I figured $50 gamble was better than a $1,000 computer investment. There was an early access component to the game, which is why I preordered instead of waiting for final re…

I mean why preorder if it's going to be on the cloud? You can always just wait until it's out to buy it

The game allowed early access, so you could play it while it was being developed and I think you gain some in game stuff on final release.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by alasdair_ »

googlryas wrote: post #461
bushbaba wrote: post #355

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Funny as stadia might have seen huge adoption IF they didn’t have a reputation of killing services and leaving the service user to hang. Killing of stadia only reaffirms peoples fear to use google products. This includes GCP.

They don't really have a reputation of that, except on forums like hn, which is not indicative of the broader market. Even among gamers, this reputation of Google doesn't exist.

> this reputation of Google doesn't exist.

To be fair, most gamers I’ve talked to don’t even know what Stadia IS.

By definition, gamers play games. To do that, they almost always own a console or gaming pc to do so. As a result, they have no need for Stadia in the first place.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by sleepybrett »

camel_Snake wrote: post #383
solardev wrote: post #348

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People do cloud games all the time. Steam and geforce now and xcloud are great. We just don't trust Google because they don't give a damn. Stadia was never marketed much and always had a tiny library with no cross play. The moment Nvidia stepped up, Stadia was dead.

Stadia has crossplay on several games now, though I absolutely agree their marketing has been an embarrassment. All I could think during the entire pandemic was how Google should be showing off how easy it is to play games on Stadia. Lower the initial barrier to entry just a smidge and it could have been as simple as texting a link to your family groupchat and then you're all playing a game together in your browser.…

Maybe better said as 'several games provided on stadia have crossplay'. I wonder if there is a better model of a user buying a license for a game, specifically a non-'live service' style game, and being able to use that on any platform that they provide the game for. I find myself buying two copies of more than a few games these days. Mostly picking it up on a more mobile platform like the switch after buying it on the pc.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by sieabahlpark »

mschuster91 wrote: post #337
napolux wrote: post #286

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> This is why I don't sign on to anything new google does for a few years now. It's going to be buggy but promising initially, then be poorly supported, and then be cancelled leaving you high and dry. I can't really understand how people can trust google domains.

Domains are transferrable. If a registrar goes belly-up you can always and easily transfer the domains out to a new registrar, and if the old registrar doesn't want to release the domain the TLD registry can and will intervene on your side.

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Post by ratherbefuddled »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #466
lelandfe wrote: post #298

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> Q: If the Stadia service is discontinued, do we know what (if anything) will happen with game purchases? > Andrey Doronichev, then Stadia Director of Product: > We get this a lot. I hear you. Moving to the cloud is scary. I felt the same way when music was transitioning from files to streaming. I still have all my old CDs in the garage… although it's hard to find a CD player these days :) > The same happened to Mov…

I didn’t even realize Stadia required you to actually buy games. I assumed the whole point of streaming is you pay a monthly fee for unlimited access to content. The business gets a cashflow it can securitize and sell on Wall St., and the customer gets unlimited content access, everyone’s happy. Really weird that Stadia required you to (also?) buy each game you wanted to play. If not for that, they never would have h…

The monthly fee is optional, you don't have to pay it to be able to stream games you have paid for.

It gives you access to a library of additional games you don't have to buy.

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Post by samhw »

kbenson wrote: post #457
Aeolun wrote: post #418

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I don’t understand why he didn’t just respond that your games will be gone. Or at least “in the worst case, your games might be gone”. People aren’t stupid, they know exactly what the evasive answer means, so why evade at all?

Not being explicit gives wiggle room for people to let their hopes override their logic when interpreting how it will work. Some number of people will read that and say "it's safe, I knew they would assuage my concerns" that wouldn't otherwise if they just said "well, you might lose you games in that case.". Those are the people being targeted. And by those people I include you and me, but for different things. It's…

It's not just the strict denotative meaning. It's also the valence and emphasis of the statement. It doesn't concentrate the mind on "what if it disappears?", but on "how likely is it to disappear?", to which the (supposed; bullshit) answer is 'not likely'. Someone might - on rational analysis - know what it means, and still come away with a better impression than if they said it outright.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #369
goldenchrome wrote: post #358

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He did. And before that he was in AR/VR. I know a few execs who have done similar hops: jumping from one hype space to the next in the hopes that one of them disrupts the whole industry and they get launched up in their career. A sort of VC fund with an investment size of one, yourself.

Nothing wrong with that. You owe nothing to the company. The company won’t be loyal to you, why should you be loyal to it?

It's not about company loyalty, it's about whether you actually believe in any of this tech. And you're supposed to, when you're a director with PR duties.

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Post by prepend »

robotnikman wrote: post #441
nwatson wrote: post #434

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Yeah I just noticed Amazon Drive is going away. No more uploads after 2023 January, no more access for non-photo/video files some time toward end of 2023. Years ago I got tired of the mess that was Google Picasa and transferred all photos, videos, and most important docs to Amazon Drive. Now I need to find yet another service.

It seems when it comes to cloud storage, you best bet is going with a company who's main product is cloud storage, and not just an afterthought or value-add like it was for Amazon. Or build your own NAS is you have the time and experience.

I’ve been pretty happy with my NAS choice (knock on wood).

I spent about $1000 on a synology and drives and that’s given me 10 years of 10TB so it’s actually pretty cost effective too. Cheaper than Dropbox or OneDrive.

I only wish there was some community disk swap program that would be good for reliable off sites. I looked into storj but you have to share like 100mb or something to make enough to pay for 1mb.

Re: Rumor: Google Stadia May Be Getting Shut Down

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Post by alphabetting »

ineedasername wrote: post #480
lenova wrote: post #289

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Goolge Stadia twitter account is saying the rumour is false: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

Google's denial takes nothing away from the credibility of this rumor. Google isn't going to deviate from their own preplanned PR campaign on any product's demise just because a rumor leaked. That doesn't mean this rumor is true, only that the denial has no informational content for evaluating the rumor. Yet on the other hand, if Google really wanted to refute the rumor , they'd say "It's not true, we have a firm roa…

Regardless of the denial, it's total fiction made up by a troll

https://twitter.com/FantiR91/status/1553021127882145793

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