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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by carlosjobim »

pezezin wrote: post #406
carlosjobim wrote: post #112

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The EU is not Europe. I never see any pro-EU sentiment anywhere besides on HN and Reddit. Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Except for the Germans.

Spanish guy here: no, we don't hate the EU, quite the opposite. Please stop feeding on right-wing propaganda that wants to destroy us.

Unfortunately you live in the wrong time and age. You'd like to report to your local commissar when somebody expresses opinions and ideas against the cherished government - "he's a right wing propagandist who seeks to destroy us!". But it's not the 20th century anymore, and all you can do is scream into the cyber void.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #319
Workaccount2 wrote: post #262

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There never was a relationship of mutual trust, it was always a relationship of Europe being under the wing of the US as a buffer against the USSR. The US now wants to push Europe out of the nest, but most Europeans have only ever known life "living in their parents house". Building an independent Europe is not compatible with the current European ethos of work/life/life/life balance, and will likely result in Europe…

How much do you guys suffer about this work life balance, I can't wrap my head around the level of brainwash you guys have been through to use concepts as socialised wealth and wellness as a bad thing these evil europeans wanting to have a break from work! how dare them!

And productivity per head is much higher in many more socialist economies. Which makes sense as it's basically GDP/hour.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

pembrook wrote: post #166
alphager wrote: post #101

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Disbanding the EU is an official goal of the new US security strategy.

It is not. I know the media has pushed this ragebait to get engagement from you, but you can literally read the official policy document.

I have read the document, it certainly implies that the EU is a problem and that the US should support 'patriotic' parties in pulling away from it.

It's a short read (30 pages, large font) so it's well worth looking at.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

nephihaha wrote: post #326
jeltz wrote: post #300

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The EU is what held back the surveillance in the UK. Post brexit they went all in on surveillance.

Both the UK and the EU are rolling in censorship, surveillance and digital ID.

You've literally just contradicted your own post in this thread.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #344
phatfish wrote: post #152

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Which Europeans have you "talked" to? Discord and twitter don't count. People moan about the EU like they moan about their own national government. Opinion polls on actually leaving the EU show a minority in favour. Most Europeans saw Brexit play out and realise sticking the finger up at your neighbours is not a winning strategy.

I guess real life doesn't count either? Good that we can rely on HN and Reddit, where the pro-EU sentiment is strong. I just haven't seen that in real life, which is why I suggest maybe it might be particular to Germans and probably Belgians and Dutch.

Where have you lived in the EU? I think that the EU is mostly mediocre rather like our national governments.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #346
Lapel2742 wrote: post #182

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> Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Maybe you should get out of your right-wing bubble. - EU approval among its citizens hits record high as security fears grow, poll shows ( https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-approval-among-its-c... ) - Nearly three quarters of EU citizens (74%) say that, taking everything into account, their country has benefited from being a mem…

I don't give very much for statistics and opinion polls. People tend to give the answer they think they're "supposed to give" in those. I base my assessment on my experience from talking to people in real life. > Maybe you should get out of your right-wing bubble. Your comment is nasty, but I don't think you're this nasty in real life. Probably you're just blowing off some steam online.

Ok so you trust your gut and lived experiences more that population statistics. That's a totally valid approach but it's very easy to misread the popular opinion as your friends are not a random sample.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #348
ulfw wrote: post #208

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop generalising. You don't know what Europeans think at all "except for the Germans"

I have an idea of what I'm talking about. I say that the EU is not Europe. Nor is Europe the EU. People in these conversations need to understand the difference, because it is significant. Norway, Great Britain, Iceland and Switzerland aren't in the EU.

All of those bar the UK are in the EEA though.

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Post by notahacker »

MangoToupe wrote: post #359
notahacker wrote: post #308

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Denmark isn't "being a dick about decolonization", it's just that they happen to be very kindly subsidising half of Greenland's budget, which causes even many enthusiastic about the idea of an independent Greenland cause to think that leaving might be a mistake. Conversely, the leader of the present day United States threatens to colonising Greenland by force to show off how powerful he is. Ergo Europeans, particular…

> Denmark isn't "being a dick about decolonization", it's just that they happen to be very kindly subsidising half of Greenland's budget, which causes even many enthusiastic about the idea of an independent Greenland cause to think that leaving might be a mistake. Brother, spread this pro-colonization propaganda elsewhere. > Conversely, the leader of the present day United States threatens to colonising Greenland by…

Fine, be that American whose ignorance of world affairs is exceeded only by faith that anything its government does, dastardly foreigns do worse...

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Post by antonkochubey »

AndroTux wrote: post #386
antonkochubey wrote: post #61

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If you need much more than compute, managed k8s and blob storage, then you're architecting yourself for a vendor lock-in.

Welcome to the real world. I’m not saying this is a good thing, but this is what’s happened. That’s why everyone is doing AWS. To pretend this is a non-issue and can easily be fixed by investing a bit in development does not reflect reality.

At my last workplace we literally fixed this by investing a bit in development.

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Post by well_ackshually »

nickff wrote: post #379
reeredfdfdf wrote: post #367

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Yea, in 29 Germany, France and UK will have elections, and far-right parties with anti-EU and partially pro-Russian attitudes are leading the polls. If they win, there will be hardly any unified "Europe" left. Why would I then trust Germany ruled by AfD over MAGA-America? At least with China there's some consistency. I can reliably trust them not to give a shit about me or my privacy, and to further their geopolitica…

Are you talking about the same China which has repeatedly performed industrial espionage, embedded surveillance into products, and supported the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

>which has repeatedly performed industrial espionage

Ah yes. Europe and the US are famously not known for performing industrial espionage. They're bestest friends.

https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/290615/revealed-m... https://web.archive.org/web/20151016000311/http://www.nytime... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-snowden-petr... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brazil-canada-espionage-which...

> embedded surveillance into products

I'm sorry, did we already forget about the NSA literally running the biggest dragnet the world has ever known and the US CLOUD Act that allows them to spy into absolutely any US company anywhere in the world ?

>supported the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

As regrettable as it is, China's "support" of the invasion is mostly a matter of them both not giving a shit about the situation, and it helping them geopolitically with regards to Taiwan. They sold weapons. Just like France sold weapons to north african regimes when they were brutally repressing their protesters. The vast majority of Europe is doing the bare minimum for ukraine to keep the fight away without being actually involved.

Countries are not moral, and will do what benefits them. Some of them are more ruthless than others, but as it stands the vast majority of Europeans are considering the US as a greater threat to democracy and general life quality than China.

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