Why is Japan still a coronavirus outlier?

Post by mekster » Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 5:36 PM UTC

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In Czech Republic everyone now has to cover their nose and mouth while being outside, on a public transport or in an office. Obviously there is not enough respirators/surgical masks, so people are just sewing ordinary face masks. It will be interesting to watch what kind of effect it will have on new infections

I am so angry at the experts saying masks were not helpful at the beginning of all this. Sewing Ordinary face masks should help! The lie was that only n95 rated masks help because the virus is so small it goes through ordinary masks, but its not about that. It’s about stopping infected from spreading large amounts of it through droplets. It’s in Japanese but I found this website on recommendations on how to create a…

Post by mekster » Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 5:48 PM UTC

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Not so surprising. You have also the same outliers with Hong Kong and Taiwan. - In Japan, people naturally respect social distancing. Touching someone is considered rude, everyone bows instead of shaking hands and nobody kiss. - Almost everybody wear mask when they are sick to avoid contaminating others. They do that since way before Cornavirus and on voluntary based. - Washing hands is common, being clean (bath cult…

I don't think this is the answer. - There's no more social distancing in Japan than in the US. Nobody goes around hugging, shaking hands with, or kissing strangers in the US. Trains are still packed. - Most public bathrooms don't have soap and I've rarely seen people wash their hands after using the bathroom anyways. - People don't listen to the government - most people I know are arranging or participating in flower…

Post by LyndsySimon » Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 1:55 AM UTC

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Simply putting on a mask does a great deal to limit the spread of a virus you already have - you’re not spewing particles all over your environment due to respiration. Simply putting on a mask does very little to keep you from getting sick, because you’re very unlikely to be following proper PPE donning/doffing procedures. Unless you your house set up as a “clean zone” with two rooms between it and the outside world…

Oh, so that's why every hospital room has an air sealed clean zone that medical professionals have to enter to put on ppe? For those that don't know, this is sarcasm. Most ICUs don't have any sort of sealed off clean zone.

Post by armada651 » Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 10:50 AM UTC

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The recommendation is not to use masks unless you are sick.

Japanese people use masks all the time though, and it seems to help?

Post by maps7 » Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 3:18 PM UTC

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There are plenty of articles but that doesn't mean they are correct. Here is a peer reviewed study demonstrating that masks are helpful. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221133551... Masks provide two benefits. They protect other people from you when your are ill but currently asymptomatic and they protect you from "splashes" caused by people coughing and sneezing without covering their mouth.

maps7 didn't say masks don't work; they said that we've been told they don't work. maps7 is right, a lot of headlines at the least have been saying things like that.