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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by IggleSniggle »

buzzert wrote: post #254
ehsankia wrote: post #253

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While I agree that new reddit is awful, I still much prefer old reddit to this. Also what's up with this new trend of having the main content width-restricted, but not the header [0]? The new GitHub UI that went live this week has the exact same problem on wide screens. What kind of UX designer ever approved such a mess and why do so many sites do this? The main UI itself, again very width restricted, but also has st…

Agreed. At least old Reddit didn’t require JS to load anything a didn’t show spinners every time you clicked on something.

"New" reddit (not that new anymore) still _frequently_ just gets stuck on the spinners. Also with some frequency, when navigating to a page I've been to before, it will load everything from cache nicely, and then REPLACE THE CACHE WITH SPINNERS THAT NEVER LOAD THE CONTENT. Sometimes it will do this with a page I've never visited before, ie it will load the page and then replace it with the spinners and never load. Worst of both worlds. Grinds my gears.

The _old_ reddit always just worked. I never had to reload the page multiple times, sometimes giving up entirely.

Obviously I'm still using the site or I wouldn't be complaining, but like, what exactly was wrong with old reddit again?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by ehsankia »

TheDong wrote: post #309
rsynnott wrote: post #295

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Do that many people use maximised windows on 16:9 or greater screens? Maybe it’s just because all my early experience was on 4:3, but I’d never maximise a browser window on a modern screen. I’d agree this is bad design, but I’d be somewhat surprised if it’s a big practical problem for most people.

There are many many people who keep a single window maximized at all times and alt-tab between windows. It's the most basic form of window management, and it works pretty well. It's especially helpful if you want to be able to focus on one thing at a time only, and not have multiple different windows with disparate screen noise visible at once. I often operate in that mode, using a tiling window manager to have a sin…

I agree. I will do side by side quite often when I'm programming or doing a specific multi-tasking work, but my "regular" browsing is fullscreen. I don't see why I would browse the web (single focused task) on the left or right half of my monitor, that just seems... silly?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by ehsankia »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #371
buzzert wrote: post #254

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Agreed. At least old Reddit didn’t require JS to load anything a didn’t show spinners every time you clicked on something.

"New" reddit (not that new anymore) still _frequently_ just gets stuck on the spinners. Also with some frequency, when navigating to a page I've been to before, it will load everything from cache nicely, and then REPLACE THE CACHE WITH SPINNERS THAT NEVER LOAD THE CONTENT. Sometimes it will do this with a page I've never visited before, ie it will load the page and then replace it with the spinners and never load. Wo…

I just tried it for 30s, and on my first try opening a comment section, it just failed and gave me an error, then I had to press retry to get it to load. I get reddit failures maybe once a month normally, so I'm either super unlucky or new is very broken.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by thereticent »

CM30 wrote: post #110
as1mov wrote: post #76

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It's a weird issue honestly. I've been on reddit for almost a decade, and I don't like what it has become. I would love to switch to a better alternative, but the problem is any alternative that pops up seems to be filled with extremists as soon as it starts. This doesn't imply that anyone who wants to leave reddit is a neo-nazi, a lot of us are stuck with reddit because everything else is filled with shit.

The best way to stop an alternative becoming filled with extremists is to start it off as a community for a specific audience, then expand to a more general one later on. Twitch and Discord did well there for instance. Started out as gaming focused, then became more mainstream. By doing this, you bring in non extremists early on, and tilt the audience pecentages in such a way that most regulars aren't such extremists…

I see what you're saying, but I have to say as someone who was there, this was not the problem with Reddit. Early Reddit (as in first year) was extremely tech/programming/"netizen" focused, and it was really a lot like HN has been for years.

But when you start to gain popularity, the way you treat "free speech" becomes an issue. Discord is not a great example in that niche communities are not scraped for web search (that I know of).

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by tootahe45 »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #235

I have to say, at the very least, the UI is a breath of fresh air compared to new Reddit. New Reddit is just...I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just feels awful to look at.

50% of the functionality also doesn't even work on Firefox in my experience.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by wjdp »

rsynnott wrote: post #295
ehsankia wrote: post #265

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But often these sites start doing the right thing and then restrict it, tkaing a step backward. Before: https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png After: https://i.imgur.com/8j7P1YE.png The latter is objectively worse. I understand that > 1080p monitors are a small fraction of your user base, but that's still not reason to not test your UI on larger resolutions, for a site as big (and prominently used by devs with large screens…

Do that many people use maximised windows on 16:9 or greater screens? Maybe it’s just because all my early experience was on 4:3, but I’d never maximise a browser window on a modern screen. I’d agree this is bad design, but I’d be somewhat surprised if it’s a big practical problem for most people.

I'm in quite a small niche: tiling window managers. When there's only one window open it takes 100% width and height. Every app I use other than some websites handles this extra space well.

You can reduce it by making real or fake windows on the left and right. Haven't gotten around to making a macro for that yet. If it's an article reader mode also exists.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by [deleted] »

badRNG wrote: post #164
agensaequivocum wrote: post #144

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> people don't want to be exposed to content that dehumanizes them, argues for their extermination The left does this on Reddit/Twitter constantly towards right wing people and no one bats an eye. It's like maybe those in power are extremely biased towards the left.

I don't think that there's an equivalency between the advocacy for the genocide of black people, Jews, trans people, etc and opposing someone for their political beliefs. Perhaps there'd be more legitimacy in a comparison to the vitriol on the left against billionaires and cops, but these are positions of power, not identity groups one is born into. All revolutionaries of all political persuasions will oppose those i…

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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by TimJRobinson »

rolleiflex wrote: post #348
TimJRobinson wrote: post #301

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Have you thought about implementing a decentralized, user centric moderation system instead of electing mods? Like this: https://adecentralizedworld.com/2020/06/a-trust-and-moderati... Would this work with Aether?

The way it works in Aether is that we have a few rules on choosing what 'effective' mods you have on your view. From weakest (as in, most prone to be overridden) to strongest: - Default mods, which are either the creator of the community or those that are assigned by that person - Elected mods, mods which are chosen by the community. Election goes both ways, you can both be elected or impeached. For example, a defaul…

That makes sense. With the trust system described trust is only calculated for you personally rather than calculating how much everyone trusts everyone else.

From the benchmarks [1] of a simple naive JavaScript version is can recalculate one persons trust in a huge network in just a few ms. With partial updates when new ratings come in it could be done even faster.

1: https://github.com/adecentralizedworld/decentralized-trust-d...

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by tennineeight »

mrfusion wrote: post #329

I think simply having a Reddit clone run by a non profit (or owned by the members themselves) would go a long way in promoting freedom and fixing the issues. I guess use a people solution instead of a technical one.

There is one made by previous Reddit admin/dev who understands how reddit works. It is nonprofit, developed in open and all policy discussions go through community.

https://tildes.net/

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