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Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by realprimoh »

RealityWinner wrote: post #207
Manuel_D wrote: post #176

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Nowhere? I suspect few people actually read the report [1]. They asked teen girls (and boys) how Instagram made them feel. The most common response for girls was "no effect" 43%, followed by "somewhat better" 29%, then "somewhat worse" at 18%, then "much better" at 8%, and lastly "much worse" at 3%. The media conspicuously ignored that substantially more girls felt that Instagram made them feel better than worse. 1.…

I don't trust any research Facebook releases about the impact of their own platform and would take such with a grain of salt. There is no incentive for them to ever release negative results.

They didn't release these results. It was leaked.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by tux3 »

pdimitar wrote: post #242
ShockedUnicorn wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple people have pointed out errors in your thinking, but I'm gonna add something slightly different: Consider that we know that mentioning suicide in the news increases the number of suicides. There is therefore a minor Info Hazard to mention suicides without the correct help structure in place. You are by that original comment implying that medication is ineffective or a crutch. There are multiple other comment…

Okay. And I was saying that people get addicted to crutches as well. It's a risk. I'm not stigmatizing people for needing help and never will. I can accept that my original comment came off a little bit more extremist than I intended but it's IMO also true that you all are projecting a little bit too much, and made me look like a monster who tell legitimately struggling people to suck it off. I don't accept this. I d…

Unfortunately, we can't see any of the nuance that's inside your head.

You really have to write that out, or people are right to prepare for the risk that you meant exactly what you wrote.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by xkbarkar »

hnarn wrote: post #340
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #306

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You're not the only one and more level-headed psychologists have warned about this pretty early last year. People are bombarded with horror news about ever rising case numbers of this 'killer virus' on a daily basis. Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. There are many documented cases in the past, but this time with the internet and our ever more connected world we seem to have a case gone global…

> Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. The entire anti-vaxxer movement makes perfect sense if you look at it like a mass psychosis of denial and a trauma response. Questioning the mainstream media is a bit of a meme these days and unfortunately most people that bring up this point have a bit of an agenda to say the least, but: One thing that’s bothered me about the MSM from the start of the pande…

I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked.

Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden.

And the gap becomes wider and more fantatic.

There is no anti vaxx movement.

As so many people are being infected anyway, odd are they are not showing up for boosters once infected.

And sinve the vaccine cards expire in 9 months (EU), you are never getting the entire EU population to show up for yearly inoculation.

Especially those who got infected anyway and those who suffered pretty badly by the vaccines but are ruthelessly dismissed.

Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ).

The anti vaxx sentiment is dead. It died with omicron. In a year all but older people i the rich west and possibly health care workers will techincally be considered unvaccinated.

Also, masks still made no difference in the spread. Not even a dent in Omicron. Only countries with high natural immunity has had relatively lower omicron curves.

Try the antivaxxer/antimasker /smooth brain/trumpis propaganda all you want in the virtual world. In the real one, parents want their children back to school.

Elderly want to enjoy the few uears they have left outside of covid prison.

Young people want to meet and fuck other young people.

And evrr single officcial MSM praised health expert has turned out to be not only wrong, but laid a platform for intruse sureveillance and degrading humans to nothing more than viral plague hosts that most be muffled, injected and locked up.

Tldr; antivaxxer as a basis for the hatred of common hunan desire to find someone to hate is dead. Vaccines and masks are nowhere near what was promised and omicron proved it

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by nicoburns »

xkbarkar wrote: post #353
hnarn wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. The entire anti-vaxxer movement makes perfect sense if you look at it like a mass psychosis of denial and a trauma response. Questioning the mainstream media is a bit of a meme these days and unfortunately most people that bring up this point have a bit of an agenda to say the least, but: One thing that’s bothered me about the MSM from the start of the pande…

I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fa…

I find your conflation of support for vaccines with support for lockdowns rather odd, because vaccines are the main thing that lessens the need for social restrictions!

> Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ).

They are leaky, but not incredibly so. They show around 70-80% protection (with 3 doses for Omicron, 2 for earlier variants). That's a massive difference, especially when you consider that for a second-order transmission that reduces the chance by 80% of the 20% remaining, making it 95% effective and so on.

As a young person who has had ongoing side effects from the vaccine, I have to say that I'm the only person I know who has had this problem. It's very rare. Similar side effects from covid itself are much more common in all demographic categories (except for moderna in young men - they should get a different vaccine).

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by newsclues »

jsodw wrote: post #345
watwut wrote: post #302

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I suspect one reason are online games. Boys are more likely to play them and in lockdown, they were the one of few socialization available. It does not matter what are reasons for disparity. But, the boys were more likely to continue some unchanged socialization ad they had before. They already had established groups to play with and so on.

Girls continue to have Instagram.

Where the activity can be distressing or malicious in terms of jealousy and trolling

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by nicoburns »

astrange wrote: post #309
enraged_camel wrote: post #287

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>> The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor The US never really locked down after maybe the first two or three week period. The “lockdowns” we had were mostly performative and not really enforced. This is in huge contrast to some cities in Australia for example, where lockdowns were both prolonged (lasting months) and those violating them were smacked down consistently.

And every Australian I know was happy about it too. Australia is very similar to the US, but one difference is that they're less oppositional. Helps that it actually seemed to work though I'm surprised there hasn't been more objection to the lack of tourism. Of course, it's ineffective against omicron which is just too infectious to be stopped, and they aren't doing it now.

> And every Australian I know was happy about it too

Hmm... that's certainly not universal. I have a couple of Australian's I met travelling on instagram, and they are posting the most extreme anti-lockdown media I've seen (comparing it to nazi germany, etc). Not sure how common that sentiment is, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's quite widespread. 18 months is a long time to be locked down for.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by edmcnulty101 »

codingdave wrote: post #337
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not the only one and more level-headed psychologists have warned about this pretty early last year. People are bombarded with horror news about ever rising case numbers of this 'killer virus' on a daily basis. Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. There are many documented cases in the past, but this time with the internet and our ever more connected world we seem to have a case gone global…

> case numbers are reported without putting them in relation to the total number of tests done. One other quirk of our society that has become clear is that what you hear in the media is absolutely correlated to which media you consume. In my experience, which is 99% reading news sites online, the testing is absolutely reported. Even emphasized, and made clear that the positivity % is a more telling metric than the n…

>In my experience, which is 99% reading news sites online, the testing is absolutely reported

I've never ONCE in years, seen cases reported along with tests given and I look at sites of all political ideologies. You can go look in the front page of the New York times right now and there's just case counts with no indication of how many tests have been given. Same with WaPo.

It kind of boggles my mind how you could even say that.

That's kind of evidence of mass formation psychosis?

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

nicoburns wrote: post #355
xkbarkar wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fa…

I find your conflation of support for vaccines with support for lockdowns rather odd, because vaccines are the main thing that lessens the need for social restrictions! > Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that i…

80% isn't protection. 80% still gets you pregnant.

Honestly, it's probably healthier for everyone to turn off the news for a half year, and did not worry about it. If you get sick, take care of it. If you don't, take care of those who do.

Lose weight. Exercise. Eat healthy. Live your life. Build and nurture friendships. Find and improve hobbies. Grow your family. You'll be fine until you die. But you can die any and every day for any arbitrary reason, so forget COVID and start taking care of life.

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