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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by MangoToupe »

tokai wrote: post #310
MangoToupe wrote: post #125

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> want to annex a European territory Greenland is not in europe. It may be a danish colony but that doesn't make it "european territory" any more than french guiana is. EU territory? Sure. But europe is a penninsula on the western flank of eurasia. Edit: huh I had no idea how complicated the classification of eu territories is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_territories_of_members...

Its not a colony. Stop diminishing the agency of Greenlanders.

Of course it's a colony; this is just an observable fact. This is true regardless of how Greenland polls. Agency is immaterial.

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Post by tokai »

MangoToupe wrote: post #285
cess11 wrote: post #229

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What a bizarre description of what the US did. Greenland has been inching towards independence since the seventies, because that's the common ambition of greenlandic peoples and it's slow because there are rather deep ties between Denmark and Greenland. These ties are to some extent very negative for the greenlanders, they're generally discriminated against and have been viciously mistreated at times, but a quick cle…

> if it would result in worse living conditions Well nobody is forcing Denmark to be a dick about decolonization, nor a dick to all the people it never colonized. That's a choice. > This is quite belligerent and nasty behaviour So was colonizing, well, anywhere. Europe still hasn't been appropriately punished for this. And yes, the US deserves to be punished severely for its own brutal conquests.

You know nothing about this, so stop spreading your made up lies. A roadmap for Greenlandic independence is in place. The Greenlandic parliament is controlling the speed of this process.

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Post by locknitpicker »

neoromantique wrote: post #306
quotz wrote: post #302

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Here’s the source from the guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/06/us-ukraine-rus...

>"an architect of the Ukraine crisis". Architect of the Ukraine crisis is Russian armed forces crossing the border and occupying the land, everything else is irrelevant.

> Architect of the Ukraine crisis is Russian armed forces crossing the border and occupying the land, everything else is irrelevant.

Russia's hostility towards Ukraine starts well before the 2022 invasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_war

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Post by cess11 »

MangoToupe wrote: post #285
cess11 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a bizarre description of what the US did. Greenland has been inching towards independence since the seventies, because that's the common ambition of greenlandic peoples and it's slow because there are rather deep ties between Denmark and Greenland. These ties are to some extent very negative for the greenlanders, they're generally discriminated against and have been viciously mistreated at times, but a quick cle…

> if it would result in worse living conditions Well nobody is forcing Denmark to be a dick about decolonization, nor a dick to all the people it never colonized. That's a choice. > This is quite belligerent and nasty behaviour So was colonizing, well, anywhere. Europe still hasn't been appropriately punished for this. And yes, the US deserves to be punished severely for its own brutal conquests.

Currently Denmark participates in financing Greenland, pulling the rug on it would likely not be pleasant for the greenlanders and if they did I'd count that as rather dickish unless the greenlanders had a near consensus on the issue and asked the danish parliament to do it.

Well, some justice have been sought and won, but a lot remains. To me it seems like an attempt at distraction to clump together the treatment of the Mau Mau and the nuking of Algeria with Denmark's relation with Greenland.

Besides economic relations, independence for Greenland would also mean that they would need to seek justice to a larger extent through international courts and in at least some cases it's likely easier for greenlanders to find justice in danish courts.

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Post by neoromantique »

locknitpicker wrote: post #313
neoromantique wrote: post #306

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>"an architect of the Ukraine crisis". Architect of the Ukraine crisis is Russian armed forces crossing the border and occupying the land, everything else is irrelevant.

> Architect of the Ukraine crisis is Russian armed forces crossing the border and occupying the land, everything else is irrelevant. Russia's hostility towards Ukraine starts well before the 2022 invasion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_war

We are discussing 2014. Russian armed forces were present there from the get-go, and hybrid approaches were there long before 2014 too.

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Post by locknitpicker »

throw0101c wrote: post #113
ExoticPearTree wrote: post #103

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. My belief is that there is no problem with the Chinese equipment, just scare-mongering from the US because it has no manufa…

>> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. > Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. The logic is don't use infrastructure of people you don't trust. If Europeans don't trust Chinese, then don't use Chines…

> Europeans don't trust Chinese, then don't use Chinese infra; if the Europeans don't trust the US (anymore), then don't use US infra.

I'm seeing the EU being singled out as unreasonable for avoiding the risk represented by buying their whole infrastructure from companies with deep and blatant ties to CCP's armed forces.

Somehow these critics are omitting the fact that most of the world, specially asian countries, have also banned them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_over_Chinese_involvem...

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Post by generic92034 »

AndroTux wrote: post #56
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #55

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Lmao but in all honesty, there are a lot of european cloud providers that I know and they are even cheaper than american counterparts like aws, azure, gcp. Personally I like european cloud too but I dont have so much as an preference and it depends but the current environment of america does seem a little hostile but not the fault of datacenters in america but I hope that hostility slows down

There are a lot of European “cloud” providers, but there’s not one that offers anything even close to AWS/GCP/Cloudflare. If you need more than compute and S3, you’re pretty much SOL.

But would you need those functions to run your ERP and CRM systems (see the article)?

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Post by awestroke »

PedroBatista wrote: post #251
sschueller wrote: post #226

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. Hopefully now "Europe" will think before fire selling all of its hardware manufacturing companies to foreign firms.

Yeah, for those foreign firms to manufacture goods from US companies in order to fill Walmarts and number go up.

Manufacture goods from US companies? Do you mean "for"?

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #262
Derbasti wrote: post #90

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The difference is, Europeans used to trust their US partners, and built a lot of infrastructure on US services. This trust has been betrayed, so things now need to change. It never existed to begin with with China, so no change is necessary. That's not "melodramatic".

There never was a relationship of mutual trust, it was always a relationship of Europe being under the wing of the US as a buffer against the USSR. The US now wants to push Europe out of the nest, but most Europeans have only ever known life "living in their parents house". Building an independent Europe is not compatible with the current European ethos of work/life/life/life balance, and will likely result in Europe…

How much do you guys suffer about this work life balance, I can't wrap my head around the level of brainwash you guys have been through to use concepts as socialised wealth and wellness as a bad thing

these evil europeans wanting to have a break from work! how dare them!

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Post by blincoln »

sylware wrote: post #59
pona-a wrote: post #53

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> in-house _modified_ _mainstream_ encryption algorithm Why would a company without cryptographic expertise modifying an existing algorithm without any particular goal in mind just to be different, produce something more secure than the winning solution in an open cryptographic competition? > directory names And file structure too, preferably. Incremental sync could be done with XTS mode.

You need only cryptographic common sense: it seems you have no idea how much it is easy to modify a mainstream cryptographic software to add basic and robust cryptographic modifications... Are you an AI?

I've been assessing systems that use cryptography for about 20 years as part of my work in information security, and I've never seen a customization that increased the security of a cryptographic algorithm over following the best practices.

Usually, non-specialists fiddling with cryptographic algorithms makes them much less secure. Developers who aren't cryptographic mathematicians should generally use a well-respected algorithm, follow current best practices, and treat that component as a magic box that's not to be tampered with.

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