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Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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That is why I'm back to torrenting. Cheaper and no ads just like the old days when I cut the cable cord. I'll admit I have a horrible setup and binge watching 12 random episodes of a new show in one day is a huge pain in the ass but I've decided that's a good thing!

It'd be amazing if I could torrent my co-workers so I could skip all those pesky ads they keep doing when we're sitting in remote meetings.

It sounds like that might be Zoom's plan?

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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This is actually something I've been thinking about a lot. Once we do have AGI, and it chooses to embark upon a large project, would it prefer to just do it all itself, or would it prefer to spawn independent agents to take responsibility for each part of the project, which would then need to periodically meet to coordinate? If the latter, I do expect something not too dissimilar from current office meetings. But if…

The way humans communicate is ineffective. The most likely scenario is that there will be different systems that AGI integrates with to do the job. AGI itself will be a distributed system that scales horizontally so it will be a single huge entity with lots of interfaces.

You're assuming that the AGI will communicate with the agents directly instead of through an LLM. If the agents are actually intelligent agents then the AGI may not be able to assume that the agents are not human, in which case it's safer for the AGI to use the LLM to define instructions for all tasks. And if that's the case then it will want to do all the work itself, if it's generally intelligent.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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You want to see a Zoom client that is utter broken trash? Look at the Linux flatpak. The scaling is completely broken, buttons are covered up, changing the size of the window results in bleed-through from underneath in parts but not others. Once a call is started if you maximize the window it will cut the other side's video in half.

I am not a regular user of Zoom at all but I did install the flatpak to check it out. I am not impressed. A company as big as this and they couldn't scrape up the resources to find a developer to make a working client? PATHETIC!

It looks like it was done as a highschool project by the gifted nephew of the CEO for their computer class and then rolled out to the world so that all may benefit from the genius of the nephew.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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You want to see a Zoom client that is utter broken trash? Look at the Linux flatpak. The scaling is completely broken, buttons are covered up, changing the size of the window results in bleed-through from underneath in parts but not others. Once a call is started if you maximize the window it will cut the other side's video in half. I am not a regular user of Zoom at all but I did install the flatpak to check it out.…

Have you tried using a desktop OS that vendors give a crap about?

(Yeah I know how that sounds but it's true)

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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How to enable end to end encryption in Zoom: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360048660871-End-t... (Presuming of course that their closed source software really E2E encrypts without a backdoor)

Why not simply use a product that doesnt steal your meeting content?

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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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I guess the equivalent terms for Google Meet are much more privacy friendly: > Control over your data > ... > Google does not store video, audio, or chat data unless a meeting participant initiates a recording during the Meet session. https://support.google.com/meet/answer/9852160 Though, I suppose this isn't exactly the same as a TOS.

Out of curiosity based on recent discussions and debates about AI and copyright, would it be considered storing if AI processes the information first and then stores the derivative works?

Like some sort of real time training, then throwing away the inout?

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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You can just have a conference call with the 5-10 speakers and use broadcasting software to stream it to the audience, why do they need to be in the conference?

For the Q&A section that comes at the end, usually.

You don’t need to be in the videocall to ask a question; you can do it via chat.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

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lightweight? they are literally the only video chatting service I use that makes my laptop fans spin up.

I am yet to find a modern video chat that isn't draining the battery of any laptop. From old Xeons, to fairly recent Ryzen and even M1/2 Macs. It's a bit puzzling, actually. I don't think Skype and TeamSpeak had the same effect on computers back in the day. Just how much local processing are they doing these days? It's crazy

Zoom is reasonably light and uses hardware acceleration on anything modern (e.g. my 2015 MBP).
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