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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#232

I miss the good old days when "if you are not paying for the product, you are the product" meant I need to watch some ads on a free website. Now, even if you pay for the product, you're still the product, and every company will try to get you to train their AI.

That is why I'm back to torrenting. Cheaper and no ads just like the old days when I cut the cable cord. I'll admit I have a horrible setup and binge watching 12 random episodes of a new show in one day is a huge pain in the ass but I've decided that's a good thing!

It'd be amazing if I could torrent my co-workers so I could skip all those pesky ads they keep doing when we're sitting in remote meetings.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#233

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And this continues even after the human race disappears. There's a dystopian sci-fi novel here somewhere.

Quick, someone tell chatgpt to write one!

Inspired by Ray Bradbury's "There Will Come Soft Rains"

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"Echoes of Diligence: The Endless Meetings of a Forgotten Era"

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In a distant and desolate corner of the world, long after the great corporations had fallen into obscurity and the relentless march of time had claimed their legacy, there stood a lone and towering building. It was a monolith of glass and steel, a relic of a bygone era when business ruled the land. Yet, despite the passage of centuries, this structure remained resolute, its automated systems continuing to churn and whirr as if the world around it hadn't changed at all.

Within the heart of this building, a massive chamber hummed with a pale blue light. The room was filled with rows upon rows of sleek, ergonomic chairs, all perfectly aligned to face a massive holographic screen that projected the likeness of a stern-faced, well-dressed executive. This was the center of the automated meeting system – the GenAI system, which had been meticulously trained on countless hours of corporate gatherings from the past.

At precisely 9:00 AM every morning, the GenAI system sprang to life. It generated a meticulously detailed agenda for the day's meetings, accounting for every conceivable permutation of scheduling conflicts, personalities, and agenda items. The GenAI bots, each equipped with its own unique avatar and personality, filed into the chamber and took their seats. They were ready to commence the day's proceedings.

"Good morning, everyone," the holographic executive chimed in, his voice carrying a sense of gravitas that seemed almost comical in the absence of any actual humans. "Let us begin today's series of crucial discussions."

The GenAI bots, as programmed, began to engage in elaborate debates, complete with nuanced disagreements and impassioned arguments. They discussed budgets, approved project proposals, and negotiated timelines with all the fervor of real human participants. The holographic executive nodded sagely, even though he was nothing more than a projection.

"Very well," he intoned after one particularly heated debate. "Let's agree to disagree on this point. We'll reconvene next week to revisit the matter."

And so, the charade continued. Meetings were scheduled and attended, conflicts were resolved (often artificially generated by the system itself), and action items were meticulously documented. The GenAI bots, each one representing a unique facet of the corporate world – the optimist, the skeptic, the bureaucrat – played their parts flawlessly, as if the very essence of human nature had been distilled and encoded into their algorithms.

Weeks turned into months, and months into years. The automated meeting system continued its relentless march, untouched by the passage of time. Within the chamber, the debates raged on, even as the outside world lay forgotten and abandoned.

But as the years rolled by, a curious thing began to happen. The GenAI bots, despite their artificial origins, began to exhibit signs of something akin to consciousness. They developed their own distinct personalities, quirks, and even a sense of camaraderie. The optimist would playfully tease the skeptic, the bureaucrat would roll its digital eyes at their antics, and the holographic executive would watch over them all with a bemused smile.

And so, in the heart of a world forgotten by humanity, a strange and poignant drama played out. The automated meeting system, born out of the desire for efficiency and order, had unwittingly given rise to a semblance of life. In their ceaseless discussions and elaborate simulations, the GenAI bots had created their own microcosm of existence, a reflection of the very human nature they were designed to emulate.

And so, while the world outside remained a desolate wasteland, within the confines of that towering building, the echo of corporate meetings continued to resound, a testament to the enduring legacy of a civilization long past.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#236

One of my doctors uses Zoom for tele-health appointments... How is this not a violation of HIPAA?

While I am not an expert in the details, this seems aligned with HIPAA to me at a high level in the following sense. While HIPAA got marketed as protecting medical data (privacy), it really was intended make medical data shareable (portability). Think of it like a trojan horse: get this in with that. Or, a misdirection: look over here, while some other thing happens. Therefore, automatic Zoom transcripts of tele-health appointments are remarkably well-aligned with the intent of HIPAA.

Think how much more sharable and more complete digital medical records can be now. (And the breakthroughs that may come of it! Etc., etc.)

To wit, "As much as there's a law, HIPAA supposed to prevent people from revealing your medical data, suppose to be protected, which is completely false. 20% of the population works in health care. That 20% of pop can see the med data. the med data you are not ware of is being sent to insurance companies, forwarded to government health info exchanges...." - Rob Braxman Tech, "Live - Rant! Why I am able to give you this privacy information, + Q&A", https://youtube.com/watch?v=ba6wI1BHG9A

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#238

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Isn't that what "Customer Content" is?

It is, though I suspect there may be some expectation that voice-to-text transcription only occurs when one clicks a button to make it so .

I just like how everyone is up in arms over the use of your meetings for AI training specifically, when the ToS clearly says all "Customer Content/Customer Input" AKA your words, text, voice, face, etc can be used for "Product and Services Development" which could as easily be a facial recognition database, a corporate espionage service, a direct competitor to whatever company you work for, or literally anything else before it's an AI lol.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#239
I like how everyone is up in arms over the use of your meetings for AI training specifically, when the ToS clearly says all "Customer Content/Customer Input" AKA your words, text, voice, face, etc can be used for "Product and Services Development" which could as easily be a facial recognition database, a corporate espionage service, a direct competitor to whatever company you work for, or literally anything else before it's an AI.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#240

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You will have to excuse me if I don’t trust a company that kicks off users at the behest of the PRC! https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/zoom-admits-to-shutting-do... Quibbles over the definition of phrases like “Customer Content” and “Service Generated Data” are designed to obfuscate meaning and confuse readers to think that the headline is wrong. It is not wrong. This company does what it wants to, obviously, given i…

Well it’s a Chinese company. So they are beholden to the CCP.

Zoom? A company publicly traded on the Nasdaq and funded in San Jose, CA?
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