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Lots of businesses use Zoom for very private things like law and finance. I smell lawsuits.
edit: I'm retracting my earlier comment. Earlier I wrote that the headline didn't seem to match what was in the TOS, since OP never mentioned which part they're concerned about. I'm now assuming the part they don't like is §10.4(ii): > 10.4 Customer License Grant. You agree to grant and hereby grant Zoom a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable license and all other rights…
Who in their right mind would use Zoom as a service. My employees will never connect to another conference call with a third party that uses zoom again, ever.
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As long as the paychecks aren't hallucinations I'm good with it.
I think that's the future with AGI - no more paychecks. What will happen when the cost of every service is zero since it's been delegated to machines?
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Why setup a separate broadcast when listeners can just join the meeting room?
Yes, I know it's more comfortable that way, but if you have to decide between giving all your data from all your meetings to a random US company and a slight annoyance whenever you do conferences with more than 500(!) participants, the choice is pretty simple to me. Giving all the data to zoom probably means also giving it to most US law enforcement agencies (should they request it), that would be a big no no for me.
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You're both misquoting and misunderstanding. Misquoting in that you clipped out the "to the extent and in the manner permitted under applicable Law". And misunderstanding since the text was talking "service generated data", not about "customer data". That's basically data generated by their system (e.g. debug logs). It's not the data you entered into the system (contact information), the calls you made, the chats you…
> And misunderstanding since the text was talking "service generated data", not about "customer data". Isn't that what section 10.4 covers and ultimately grants liberal rights to Zoom? > 10.4 Customer License Grant. You agree to grant and hereby grant Zoom a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable license and all other rights required or necessary to redistribute, publish, i…
And again, this is about granting an license on the intellectual property. It doesn't create any kind of end-run around the GDPR, and wouldn't e.g. count as consent for GDPR purposes.
Thankfully nothing like this is in Jitsi Meet’s TOS: https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-terms-of-service/ It never ceases to amaze me how companies choose the worst software!
For various reasons I have a bunch of different groups where I use different videocall software for regular meetings - Zoom, Jitsi, Teams, Skype, Google Meet and Webex. Out of all those, Jitsi is the only one where I can't rely on the core functionality - video calls and screensharing for small meetings (5-6 people); I have had multiple cases when we've had to switch to something else because the video/audio quality…
Lots of businesses use Zoom for very private things like law and finance. I smell lawsuits.