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Post by dx034 »

myself248 wrote: post #257
paddlepop wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may have had an auth token compromised. I used a dodgy third party Spotify Connect for Raspberry Pi library and had the same issue. Changing my password and expiring all current auth tokens returned my Discover Weekly back to normal after a month

So is there some library author out there, stealing people's auth tokens and playing German and Portuguese songs on our accounts, cackling to herself with glee, and waiting until we discover (today might be the day!) her utterly-harmless mischief? As much as I love the notion, I have to conclude that Discover Weekly's mediocrity is just another piece of evidence that the world actually did end in 2012, and ever since…

Also explains why Swiftkey (keyboard app) stopped working around that time. They say it's their new deep learning framework that provides superior feedback, I find it pretty useless compared to the old version.

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Post by dx034 »

pyronite wrote: post #66
saym wrote: post #18

They've gone from 28 million to 71 million premium subscribers in 3 years with a declining, single digit, churn rate. I'm impressed. I'm a happy Spotify customer, I hope they continue their growth and become a pillar of the music industry.

I was a Spotify lifer until I butted up against their 10,000 song limit. [1] Now, I'm using Google Play Music. There's no doubt in my mind that everything else outside of this limit is better on Spotify. Please, Spotify, fix this! Let me help inflate your valuation! 1. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Accounts/Library-Song-Limit...

Does anyone know the technical background of this? They talk about providing a great experience for others, so I guess it's about performance. But library entries can be partitioned by users so there should be no performance effect of 100k songs per library of one user on others? Also, the current 10k limit doesn't represent much data if stored with a bit of meta data.

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Post by dx034 »

propogandist wrote: post #230
gafasRotas wrote: post #177

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Can confirm. Countries in Latin America are getting plans for the equivalent of $1.5

how easy would it be to VPN to a LA country, signup for the plan and then just have service for $1.5?

Playlists are completely different. Already had this within Europe, if you like music in a country you should sign up for Spotify in that country. Music availability can also differ.

So could be possible if you like music commonly listened to in Latin America and don't use Spotify's playlists. Otherwise I'd pay more to stay with the service of your home country.

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Post by noway421 »

tomc1985 wrote: post #183
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Their coverage of indie labels and the dance music underground still sucks. Plus I don't think their streaming is lossless and you can easily spot the difference with something as simple as a pair of $100 wireless headphones (NOT beats) hooked up to a $100 USB headphone amp.

There's high definition audio setting somewhere in preferences, although that might be just higher bitrate

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Post by atupis »

jakecopp wrote: post #214
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Does paying for Spotify actually help any artists meaningfully though? I've been wondering whether paying for a Bandcamp album every so often to match the cost of Spotify, and pirating music otherwise would actually benefit artists more. I've read that Spotify pays fractions of a cent per play, where as Bandcamp pays out quite well, better than iTunes and Google Play.

At Sweden 80% all revenue are now from streaming http://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-music-streaming-statis...

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Post by thirdsun »

steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

Ok, but do those listeners earn you any significant money? Maybe compared to a traditional album sold on Bandcamp?

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Post by rimliu »

juicy-fruit wrote: post #49
steve-benjamins wrote: post #4

I really hope Spotify succeeds. I've mentioned this before on Hacker News, but as an artist, the algorithmic playlists are amazing. On a good week I get ~4,000 new listeners. It's incredible. Discovery Weekly drives the most but Release Radar and Radio also send a good chunk. Apple Music on the hand hasn't even verified my artist profile— which I need in order to view analytics. So I don't even know if people listen…

I've had Spotify before and switched to Apple Music because of the student pricing. When I had Spotify, I would discover new music and new artists all the time. Since getting Apple Music, I really haven't discovered anyone new. Although I've graduated, Apple seems to think I'm still in school and is still only charging me $5/month. The moment that ends, I'm switching to Spotify. Also, the Apple Music app on iOS is ho…

Just to provide an opposite case: tried Spotify, did not click with me. Happy with the Apple music now (and iTunes Match). Never understood the complaints about the music app.

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Post by rplnt »

skoocda wrote: post #236
propogandist wrote: post #230

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how easy would it be to VPN to a LA country, signup for the plan and then just have service for $1.5?

Probably not very hard. The biggest headache is probably that the recurring credit card purchases might be flagged and blocked for being an unrecognized international transaction. But then again, $1.50 won't raise alarms for many banks.

Don't they know the country where the card was issued? I.e. Spotify could refuse payment using non-LA card? Or, ideally, just bump it to the higher bracket (with appropriate notice).

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Post by thirdsun »

hxn wrote: post #100

I am a huge huge music fan and meanwhile I tried most music services. I had Spotify for a while too. But nowadays I prefer to use smaller sites like http://www.bandcamp.com and the sites of small labels. For discovery I use http://www.gnoosic.com an AI recommender created by a fellow HN member. For me, music consumption feels more adventurous this way.

Another avid Bandcamp user reporting in. Streaming isn't an option at all - there's just too much music missing, or it might be missing someday. However I maintain a very large collection of music with lots of obscure and rare music, which is very different from most listeners, which are, frankly, very well served by Spotify - for a very cheap price. Too cheap. Nobody is earning any money from streaming.

I couldn't imagine renting my music and I don't think it's a working business model for anyone but Apple, Google & Co., who can handle a loss.

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Post by braderhart »

RandallBrown wrote: post #223
mancerayder wrote: post #219

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also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. Love Spotify, disagree strongly with this. My experience is terrible music that doesn't seem to have anything to do with any of the hundreds of songs I have on my playlist. I get this curious Millennial mix of soft rock music with long, boring instrumental guitar strumming, a disco beat and a sleepy, sarcastic-voiced gal (sometimes g…

Discover Weekly has a like and dislike button in the desktop app. I couldn't figure out how to do it on mobile though.

Spotify app is so terrible, once you like something, it doesn't give you an option to unlike it.
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