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Post by stochastic_monk »

gonehome wrote: post #141
Nadya wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The default quality for the desktop app is in OGG Vorbis at 160kbps and for the mobile app is 96kbps. With a Premium subscription you can change these to 'Extreme' (320kbps). The web player reaches is 128kbps AAC or 256kbps with Premium [0]. Many users might be unaware they can change the quality at all (or they don't use the desktop app but use the web player so can't change the quality at all). I can definitely hea…

In that case given Spotify premium and just setting the config to use 'extreme' there should be no reason to pay for a separate subscription service? (At least for quality reasons).

At that point, you’re choosing between services based on content. And even without a quality issue, I have several artists I need one or the other platform to hear. I haven’t enabled the Extreme quality on Spotify (and was unaware).

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Post by gcardone_ »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

> Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar.

My discover weekly playlist ALWAYS contains at least one song in Portoguese and at least two in German. I speak neither of those languages, and I've never willingly searched and played songs in those languages (except for "99 Luftballons" once).

I also get some terrible variation of "Here comes the sun" at least once a month despite not listening to The Beatles at all. [0] is the one that I hate the most.

Spotify, please sthap. I can't take any more Portoguese, German, and "Here comes the sun" cover songs.

[0] https://open.spotify.com/track/5PWh3rG5zWv7hVvWHRMbsf

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Post by jakecopp »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Does paying for Spotify actually help any artists meaningfully though?

I've been wondering whether paying for a Bandcamp album every so often to match the cost of Spotify, and pirating music otherwise would actually benefit artists more.

I've read that Spotify pays fractions of a cent per play, where as Bandcamp pays out quite well, better than iTunes and Google Play.

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Post by wweidendorf »

jonknee wrote: post #126
wweidendorf wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Per a WSJ article in January, Spotify has retained investment bankers (reportedly paying them $30MM) to help ascertain interest from large institutional investors, tell the investment story, et cetera. Given that, I imagine that they will advise the company and its pre-IPO shareholders on an indicative price or price range. Also, I would be hard pressed to imagine that they would not nominate a stabilization agent to…

The F-1 tells the full story: > As this listing is taking place via a novel process that is not an underwritten initial public offering, there will be no book building process and no price at which underwriters initially sold shares to the public to help inform efficient price discovery with respect to the opening trades on the NYSE. Pursuant to NYSE Rules, we have engaged Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC (“Morgan Stanley”)…

Interesting, thanks - I did not have a chance to read through the full F-1 yet when I wrote the below, so apologies for the incorrect statement on my part regarding the stabilization agent and roadshow given the limited scope of engagement that bankers have on this listing.

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Post by deboboy »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

"Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar." Disagree. Give them credit for trying but they have yet to recommend a new artist that I've liked; continued listening to.

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Post by jsmeaton »

gcardone_ wrote: post #212
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

> Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My discover weekly playlist ALWAYS contains at least one song in Portoguese and at least two in German. I speak neither of those languages, and I've never willingly searched and played songs in those languages (except for "99 Luftballons" once). I also get some terrible variation of "Here comes the sun" at least once a month despite not listening to The Beatles at all. [0…

Do you use the Like/Dont Like feature of discover weekly? That's helped tune my weekly lists for the better.

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Post by paddlepop »

gcardone_ wrote: post #212
dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

> Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My discover weekly playlist ALWAYS contains at least one song in Portoguese and at least two in German. I speak neither of those languages, and I've never willingly searched and played songs in those languages (except for "99 Luftballons" once). I also get some terrible variation of "Here comes the sun" at least once a month despite not listening to The Beatles at all. [0…

You may have had an auth token compromised. I used a dodgy third party Spotify Connect for Raspberry Pi library and had the same issue. Changing my password and expiring all current auth tokens returned my Discover Weekly back to normal after a month

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Post by mancerayder »

dopeboy wrote: post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar.

Love Spotify, disagree strongly with this. My experience is terrible music that doesn't seem to have anything to do with any of the hundreds of songs I have on my playlist. I get this curious Millennial mix of soft rock music with long, boring instrumental guitar strumming, a disco beat and a sleepy, sarcastic-voiced gal (sometimes guy).

It might be because I live in Brooklyn.

And there's no Like or Dislike button like (beloved) Pandora.

edit: Don't think anyone compromised my account.

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Post by cirgue »

recursive wrote: post #201
cirgue wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think part of the online music discovery problem is that there is zero social context for it. Using Spotify to discover new music is, at least for me, the media equivalent of eating in a restaurant alone. Sure it's doable, and it's even preferable sometimes, but you're still missing one of the core elements of the experience.

What's the normal social context for discovering music? I ask this as someone who has done 99%+ of my music discovery in the last 5 years privately.

The same as the social context for books, film, or any other kind of media: you talk about and experience it with your friends.
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