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Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. Love Spotify, disagree strongly with this. My experience is terrible music that doesn't seem to have anything to do with any of the hundreds of songs I have on my playlist. I get this curious Millennial mix of soft rock music with long, boring instrumental guitar strumming, a disco beat and a sleepy, sarcastic-voiced gal (sometimes g…

I agree with the GP about Discover Weekly; it works great for me but I'm guessing maybe that's because I have a lot of saved playlists I've accreted over the years.

I disagree about the native app, though. PWDs are where it's at now. Native apps are doomed.* I didn't even download it on my new MBP, it was slow and buggy. The web version is good enough for me, combined with web-scrobbler for Chrome so I can still scrobble to Last.fm.

[*] https://medium.com/javascript-scene/native-apps-are-doomed-a...

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Can you tell audio quality of Spotify vs Tidal in a blind test?

spotify premium (if you select “high quality streaming” in settings) uses 320 kb/s ogg vorbis, whereas tidal streams in a lossless format. on most audio set ups those will be indistinguishable but my understanding is that people who know what to listen for can tell the difference on a suitably powerful/nuanced sound system.

>but my understanding is that people who know what to listen for can tell the difference on a suitably powerful/nuanced sound system.

Or at least they claim they can. I've yet to know anyone with any expensive systems who claims to be an audiophile who can actually pass an ABX test with any more accuracy than random guessing would have given them. Largely because they'd need superhuman hearing - able to hear things that are literally outside the frequency of normal human hearing. Not saying these people can't exist... just that it's extremely unlikely.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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I'm so happy to hear it's not just me. When I first started listening to Spotify (about a year and a half ago), I found the dicovery really high-quality, but it just seems to have gotten worse and worse. Discover Weekly is particularly bad. I find that the first 5 or so songs are okay, but from there is rapidly decends into madness. I have the weird habit (though I'm weening off) of keeping all the music I listen to…

Discover Weekly looks at the music you listened to recently. If you listen to 5 random songs this week because you were very busy, it's going to offer you the same thing next Monday. Then if the only things you listen to next week is the bad offering from Discover, it's going to propose you the same crap the week after.

I assure you the music I listen to is far removed from the Discover Weekly offerings, which I described graphically above.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

Does paying for Spotify actually help any artists meaningfully though? I've been wondering whether paying for a Bandcamp album every so often to match the cost of Spotify, and pirating music otherwise would actually benefit artists more. I've read that Spotify pays fractions of a cent per play, where as Bandcamp pays out quite well, better than iTunes and Google Play.

Bandcamp is good if you know what you want and they do pay out really, really well.

If you want a streaming service more like Spotify you might also check out Resonate Cooperative https://resonate.is/ which has a stream-to-own model.

Discovering new music is low cost, repeated listens double until the ninth, upon which you own the track outright. You can then download or stream that track for free.

Still ramping up but I'm excited about their prospects.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

I also think their discovery is far and away the best I've used. And their streaming platform / Spotify Connect is a really well engineered platforms IMO.

My only issue with discover weekly is how heavily it weights the music you've listened to most recently. I guess thats part of the whole weekly aspect, but I wish they would give you recommendations based on your whole listening history.

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Can confirm. Countries in Latin America are getting plans for the equivalent of $1.5

how easy would it be to VPN to a LA country, signup for the plan and then just have service for $1.5?

Probably not very hard. The biggest headache is probably that the recurring credit card purchases might be flagged and blocked for being an unrecognized international transaction. But then again, $1.50 won't raise alarms for many banks.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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post #203

I’ve tried Spotify but I cannot upload my own library (lots of mashup, asian music, remix, etc... that Spotify doesn’t have), use it and retrieve it later if needed. I’ve been looking for a service to do that and I couldn’t really find anything except iTunes match. But iTunes match is not really the same as spotify. So I did this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ptV0sWO2tBT4c3G8aiB0...

You can do this in Spotify, it's actually one of the main reasons I use it. You need to add your local directory to the list of music sources. The trick to getting that music to sync to other devices is that you need to create a playlist and download it while both devices are on the same local network. Your personal library is never uploaded to the cloud.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

I don't pirate music anymore for the same reason. However, I also don't listen to music as I used to. I usually use Spotify to listen to what I already know, not so much to find new stuff. Before, I used to dive in depth into an artist/band, starting from their greatest hits. Once I got the band vocabulary, I'd download the albums chronologically and listened to every track, sometimes more than once until I got famil…

Have you seen the 'Browse' page? You'll find a lot of new music.

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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post #96

Spotify is the reason why I don't pirate music anymore. I say this as someone who used to be involved in the scene (low level FXP couriering in the late 90s and early 00s) and has gigs of release from the RNS, EGO, etc days. It's much faster and convenient to use Spotify. I also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. My only wish is they'd get off Electron (EDIT Chromium - tha…

also think they cracked music discovery. Their discovery weekly playlist is stellar. Love Spotify, disagree strongly with this. My experience is terrible music that doesn't seem to have anything to do with any of the hundreds of songs I have on my playlist. I get this curious Millennial mix of soft rock music with long, boring instrumental guitar strumming, a disco beat and a sleepy, sarcastic-voiced gal (sometimes g…

Discover Weekly works great for me, but I have 10,000 songs in my library. (Exactly 10,000 songs, because that’s the very annoying hard limit Spotify has set.)

Re: Spotify Form F-1

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Do you use the Like/Dont Like feature of discover weekly? That's helped tune my weekly lists for the better.

On Android?? Why do I not have this feature?

I mostly use the desktop app on Mac. I don't have like/dont like available on the iOS client, so presumably it's not supported on mobile.

I think it's a newer feature so maybe it just hasn't made its way to mobile yet.

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