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Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance.

You learn animal husbandry and join the Amish.

You drive an used car from 2016, that is much easier.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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post #15

That‘ll happen when you don‘t have meaningful data protection laws.

My question is why, with their protection laws, Smart TVs and Smart Cars are still sold in the EU?

My guess is lobbies buying the political leaders.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN on average is a little behind on the general EU "privacy" stance (though I saw some recent topic about that here). EU was about privacy, a few decades ago. Nowadays it did a complete U-turn and legislates mandatory anti-privacy union-wide laws every year. - Chat Control law, now all messaging must be intercepted and monitored. - eIDAS law, mandating that web-browser vendors must now accept state issued root certif…

Breathtaking levels of misinformation here. There is no EU law that mandates "all messaging must be intercepted and monitored." There is no EU law mandating permanent, non-disableable cameras and microphones in cars. ProtectEU is not a law, not related to email and does not demand any "backdoors." The AI Act bans real-time facial/biometric recognition in public places... which is a good thing. It does not "legalize A…

> There is no EU law mandating permanent, non-disableable cameras

Too late for that, see the new laws for new cars.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you think right-to-repair intersects with cars? An obvious thing may be to say the software must be published or the spec released, but we've had computers in cars since the 80s. It seems like a tall task but people can and do reverse engineer entire ECU systems (See Trionic Tuning) Another seemingly very obvious one - requiring manufacturers to publish specifications regarding ALL OBD interface options. Of co…

> How do you think right-to-repair intersects with cars? Strongly. You don't own the thing you purchased if you can't legally repair it or legally obtain the knowledge to repair it. At beat you're paying an overpriced lease and granting a liability waiver.

You own something if you can sell it.
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