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Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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Post by willis936 »

tomrod wrote: post #6

How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance.

I've had good luck with pulling service manuals, finding the telematics antenna connectors, and unplugging them. It's popular to pull the telematics module fuse, but that typically disables internal microphones and GPS that are used by android auto and carplay. This severely degrades features spouses expect to just work. The antenna pulling is a much lighter touch.

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Post by WarmWash »

tomrod wrote: post #6

How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance.

What sucks is that at least with my car, if you pull their access, you also lose all your remote access as well, and the ability to receive updates.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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Post by herbst »

everyone wrote: post #5

Another reason to use a car from 90's or 2000's.. Also they wont burn oil like a modern car + more durable and repairable metal parts. https://youtu.be/Ft12aZffCEg?si=qP1J5k6RXAxmZChf https://youtu.be/SeMZGICNSMg?si=-YLnt5Q477xpFbra https://youtu.be/8Kp108x4tQA?si=j7JV-_Dpl5afP99F

I really wanted a modern car because of the fancy automation stuff, I thought.

But it never is economical or more environmental friendly.

Whatever I saved on my old car compared to a newer one will never be less than the theoretical fuel savings on a newer car. Repair costs will never be as much (assuming you buy a popular repair friendly car). And nothing new needs to be built for me either.

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Post by VCFundedGenYer »

jeffbee wrote: post #10

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1. Android Automotive is run by Google, so that entire argument goes out the window immediately, because Google

2. Car companies bypass CarPlay/Android Auto with their own head units with software that executes before the projection software does.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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Post by ryandrake »

WarmWash wrote: post #12
tomrod wrote: post #6

How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance.

What sucks is that at least with my car, if you pull their access, you also lose all your remote access as well, and the ability to receive updates.

Why does a car need "remote access" and to "receive updates?" I'd consider this a bonus side effect.

Re: Data collected by cars and sold to third parties

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Post by derwiki »

WarmWash wrote: post #12
tomrod wrote: post #6

How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance.

What sucks is that at least with my car, if you pull their access, you also lose all your remote access as well, and the ability to receive updates.

Why do you need remote access to your car? What updates does your car need?

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Post by natch »

tomrod wrote: post #6

How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance.

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