Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…
Do you know how many USB cable / charger people have on average?
EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because apple refuses to play ball otherwise. Capitalism has failed and is now producing tonnes of unnecessary e-waste.
A 4 year old iPhone still works perfectly, but a $200 Android will find its way to a landfill way sooner. As a rule of thumb, appliances that last are better for the environment than cheap products. Apple is good at make devices that last. Nowadays all laptops can charge over usb-c (including Apple laptops, mind you!). Did anybody have to force Apple to do this? No, because charging technology improved so much that w…
Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024
#253Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…
> Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. It's not, we're glad SOMEONE is forcing them to take this direction, but it's really sad (and potentially damaging) it had to come to this. > As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge…
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#254What happens when we want to move on from USBC? Do we need a stamp of approval from the EU to do it? No thanks.
10 years to lobby the EU to update the law.
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#256LET'S GO EU! These headlines make me proud. Let's reach a global standard for charging stuff. I wish everything that had to be charged sometimes had a USB-C plug. But also I hope that the USB standard gets less messy in the future.
There is no reason for USB to improve any further, because now it has to be used by law. Amazing that people still don’t get it.
That's not how USB works.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
Data transfer speed is an important reason. iPhone 14 Pro can create huge videos and photos, and transferring them using Lightning is too slow.
Did the law mandate USB 3 or just the USB-C connector? You can still have USB-C connector with USB2 data rates.
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#258Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…
Data transfer speed is an important reason. iPhone 14 Pro can create huge videos and photos, and transferring them using Lightning is too slow.
For dedicated professionals I can see it making sense and nothing should prevent Apple from offering new iPhone Pros with usbc.
But that’s not useful for an average person
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Less waste after iPhone users all have to throw away their cables and buy new ones, presumably?
Straw-man argument, as the law won't require retroactively changing the port on existing iPhones.
This literally just created a mountain of e-waste. We turned a hypothetical "what about when they switch" into a forced reality.
Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024
#260This year Apple removed another long standing port from their devices. This time around it was the sim tray. Apple is going completely portless with their devices. By the time this law is in effect there will be no external ports on Apples devices. Anyone want to take bets on whether Apple introduces its own wireless charging standard at that time or the following year?
> This time around it was the sim tray. Only in the US, I believe. My UK iPhone 14 certainly has a SIM tray with a physical SIM in it - lucky, really, because my provider doesn't support eSIMs. [edit: just checked and it seems my provider is the only big one that doesn't support them.]
And how about the small ones? I see eSim as limiting choice.
First the provider must support it. Second they have to support it and be compatible with my phone.
Third, how do you switch providers with an eSim? Do you need to contact servers for both the provider you're leaving and the one you're switching to? What if one of them is not reachable?
How likely is it that the provider you're turning off can put in some innocent administrative hurdles?
Physical sims seem to give me a lot more choice since no one has any say in what I plug into the phone.