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EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

Do you know how many USB cable / charger people have on average?

I don’t. Can you send me the research data where you learned about that?

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because apple refuses to play ball otherwise. Capitalism has failed and is now producing tonnes of unnecessary e-waste.

A 4 year old iPhone still works perfectly, but a $200 Android will find its way to a landfill way sooner. As a rule of thumb, appliances that last are better for the environment than cheap products. Apple is good at make devices that last. Nowadays all laptops can charge over usb-c (including Apple laptops, mind you!). Did anybody have to force Apple to do this? No, because charging technology improved so much that w…

Anecdotal, but my friend has been complaining for over a year that the updates are making his iPhone too slow. Otoh, my 6+ year old Android phone is still going strong (after 1 battery replacement).

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #150

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

> Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. It's not, we're glad SOMEONE is forcing them to take this direction, but it's really sad (and potentially damaging) it had to come to this. > As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge…

Transfer speed seems like a non-issue. Wi-Fi 6 is faster than the the internal SSDs read speed. There's no reason to even plug it in for data.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #148

> Starting in 2026, USB-C will also become the norm for laptop chargers. Fuck off! Barrel plugs are great.

Certainly if the quality of USB-C ports on Thinkpads in anything to go by.

Have thinkpads 2+ years but don't have any issues. What is the problem with the ports?

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #33

LET'S GO EU! These headlines make me proud. Let's reach a global standard for charging stuff. I wish everything that had to be charged sometimes had a USB-C plug. But also I hope that the USB standard gets less messy in the future.

There is no reason for USB to improve any further, because now it has to be used by law. Amazing that people still don’t get it.

Wait you think they somehow tried to compete with apple ?

That's not how USB works.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Data transfer speed is an important reason. iPhone 14 Pro can create huge videos and photos, and transferring them using Lightning is too slow.

Did the law mandate USB 3 or just the USB-C connector? You can still have USB-C connector with USB2 data rates.

Presumably, the thinking goes that vendors will use the opportunity to have a large bandwidth.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

Data transfer speed is an important reason. iPhone 14 Pro can create huge videos and photos, and transferring them using Lightning is too slow.

Sure, but how many people actually use that?

For dedicated professionals I can see it making sense and nothing should prevent Apple from offering new iPhone Pros with usbc.

But that’s not useful for an average person

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Less waste after iPhone users all have to throw away their cables and buy new ones, presumably?

Straw-man argument, as the law won't require retroactively changing the port on existing iPhones.

Most iPhone users are going to buy new iPhones though, eventually. And when they do the lightning cables they already have are going to be useless and they'll have to replace every single cable they own.

This literally just created a mountain of e-waste. We turned a hypothetical "what about when they switch" into a forced reality.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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This year Apple removed another long standing port from their devices. This time around it was the sim tray. Apple is going completely portless with their devices. By the time this law is in effect there will be no external ports on Apples devices. Anyone want to take bets on whether Apple introduces its own wireless charging standard at that time or the following year?

> This time around it was the sim tray. Only in the US, I believe. My UK iPhone 14 certainly has a SIM tray with a physical SIM in it - lucky, really, because my provider doesn't support eSIMs. [edit: just checked and it seems my provider is the only big one that doesn't support them.]

> just checked and it seems my provider is the only big one that doesn't support them

And how about the small ones? I see eSim as limiting choice.

First the provider must support it. Second they have to support it and be compatible with my phone.

Third, how do you switch providers with an eSim? Do you need to contact servers for both the provider you're leaving and the one you're switching to? What if one of them is not reachable?

How likely is it that the provider you're turning off can put in some innocent administrative hurdles?

Physical sims seem to give me a lot more choice since no one has any say in what I plug into the phone.

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