Parler CEO Says Service Dropped by “Every Vendor” and Could End His Business

No, being a fascist by definition requires you to be on the right of the political spectrum. Where did you get those definitions from? Parler?

Wikileaks is a pretty grim example to include in that list.

A national security concern would have been easier dealt with by coercing parler directly rather than going to the trouble of coercing each vendor individually. It makes no sense.

I understand you're emotional about it, and asking for clarification is 'disturbing' to you. I also don't like what happened and would love to figure out ways to ensure a better functioning society.

However, I think where we may differ is how we think about solutions to problems like this. I want solutions that are scalable, and that help maintain a society where a diversity of people can all thrive over the long-term. I don't believe emotional reasoning should be a strong factor in determining punishments for people, as it leads to bias and discrimination.

Most vocal people you see on the internet don't seem particularly interested in long-term/scalable solutions. It's not terribly surprising, we humans are very short-term oriented and tribal by nature. When we see members of the outgroup performing badly, we want to punish them. When members of our own ingroup perform badly, we are more likely to rationalize it away and be more charitable with the interpretation of what they've done.

I don't believe the 'punish the outgroup, forgive the ingroup' thinking is healthy for a functioning pluralistic society. The words you are using and the way you are framing things are signals to me that you may be fairly biased against your outgroup. That's why I was asking you to spell out exactly what rules should govern punishment in your mind.

The next step in critically thinking through your proposed rules is whether you would punish members of your ingroup for violating them, or if you'd add new caveats to ensure they were given some leniency. But that's just a rhetorical question given the nature of this forum.

Note: I am making no claims of equivalence between your outgroup and ingroup in terms of actions they've done. You also likely think I'm part of your outgroup for straying from the status quo by even posing such questions, and may feel inclined to use terms reserved for your outgroup. You'd be mistaken, but I understand the impulse.

there are actual nazis, muslim extremists, antifa types, and all sorts encouraging violence on Twitter and facebook right now. right now you can go and find propaganda pages from the world's most repressive and violent regimes, like Saudi Arabia, for example.

When Uganda banned Twitter/Facebook for election interference, all of a sudden "free speech" rights matter to these platforms and they find it unjust.

you could argue the majority of the protest at DC was organized on major platforms over Parler. So why are we de-platforming major players through our ISPs? Why isn't verizon or comcast blocking Facebook or Twitter. Go get your own series of tubes.

Parler, like Twitter, has a team of people who work to remove posts in violation of the rules.

A political situation and some token examples are being exploited to take out a competitor.

And it just so happens that the Dems are going to chair all the Congressional committees that over see Silicon Valley, you're going to have a Dem house, senate and POTUS.

This right here is being taken advantage of to take an an entire wing of a debate and to tilt poltical power. And the populace is cheering it on.

Just like they cheered on the Iraq War and the Patriot Act.

It's a common bi-partisan tactic to blame the whole for the actions of the fringe and use that as a wedge. It's like how my Trumper father rags on PETA when he wants to complain about environmentalism. This is the same crap. Except at a far larger level, far more cynical an far more corrupt.

We're losing our ability for free speech, people -LEFTISTS of all people - are celebrating a handful of tech monopolies, acting in unison as some kind of cabal, led by a singular political party in this country - this is the merging of capital and state that you see in fascist societies, all the while shouting the loudest about anti-fascism.

Just like the Koch brothers shouting about liberty and freedom, things tend to not mean what people claim they mean.

And you're all a bunch of suckers for buying this horsepucky, hook, line and sinker.

I'm a Bernie (except on this issue), AOC, Nader loving social democrat. But "my side" is selling it's proverbial sole to the devil b/c "winning" means more than any foundational values that should apply to us all.

We're no longer agreeing on a even playing field. Democracy is up for grabs by both sides if it means one of them stands a chance at winning. And both sides only happen to see this destructive behavior in the other and never in the mirror.