Why do you need an LLC to run an emulator project?
They probably forsaw this coming and wanted protection in case of a lawsuit.
Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean Valve literally had a trailer with a nintendo emulator as an app installed... Valve doesn't need to do RND for its games because they can just use whatever is on steam that is playable on the deck plus a ton of games from nintendo consoles via emulators as a selling point.
Nintendo could do the exact same thing if they made their platforms open like Steam does. That the switch is limited to only Switch games is entirely a choice they made because their whole existence they've been all about proprietary and locked down.
I mean, to be fair, the NES lockout chip is what salvaged the video game industry after hoards of shitty games caused it to collapse.
Obviously a lot has changed since then. Now they do it to protect their own IP and investments.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems a bit silly. Could you sue Microsoft because they did nothing to prevent death threats from being written in Word or sent over Outlook?
That’s an argument to make. Jennifer Crumbley was found guilty of manslaughter for doing nothing to prevent her son from shooting up his school. That was criminal court with a much higher standard than a civil case. Nintendo has consistently been one of the strongest protectors of their IP, and a defense that says “We tell users not to commit piracy” is about as effective as a sex workers disclaimer that “money is ex…
That case is in regards to a guardian figure who has some level of legal responsibility for the children in their care. In that case it makes sense to hold someone accountable for the actions of someone else because the person in question agreed to that when they became a guardian.
Software developers should not be held liable for what their users do with the software unless the software itself does something illegal (such as malware that gains unauthorized access to secure systems). If developers were responsible for their users then you would have all kinds of bizarre lawsuits. You would be able to sue Microsoft for things written by users in Word. It wouldn't be a stretch to sue Linux contributers because someone used the OS to perform a DOS attack or to host a scam site.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#244I wish they'd offer a legal avenue to play Switch games at 4K/60 instead of 720p/20-30. Anyone looking for a higher fidelity experience than the 2017 Switch hardware is able to provide is forced to use software like Yuzu to enable it. Even Sony has started porting their crown jewel games to PC to enormous commercial success, allowing players with high-end hardware to legally enjoy a higher fidelity experience, but Ni…
I've read rumors, and it seems very plausible, that Nintendo's next console might be able to play Switch games at higher resolution and/or framerate.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, better than on the Switch. (now I'm awaiting legal action from Nintendo)
Afaik you need to own a modded Switch to get the necessary keys, though. That’s a big outlay, if you can even find one - they’re rare as hens teeth. Edit: Awesome - great to know!
You do not need a Switch at all, unless you're trying to somehow skirt the legality issues.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that case, Linux creators would be liable for not taking any steps within the Linux kernel preventing you from pirating a game on the platform.
No because the primary use of Linux is not piracy. Whereas for emulation it is. The whole point of emulation is that you want to play content for which the original hardware no longer exists. And so there is no harm being done to anyone. This situation is obviously quite different because Nintendo is being harmed.
> No because the primary use of Linux is not piracy. Whereas for emulation it is.
It's not piracy to play a game that you've backed up on different hardware than the original developers intended.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, better than on the Switch. (now I'm awaiting legal action from Nintendo)
Afaik you need to own a modded Switch to get the necessary keys, though. That’s a big outlay, if you can even find one - they’re rare as hens teeth. Edit: Awesome - great to know!
You can find the keys online.
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#248> As a result, Nintendo ... is demanding that the Yuzu emulator is shut down. When corporations like Uber violate multiple laws, do they get shut down? When Amazon treats its employees poorly, does it get shut down? When Google forbids manufacturers to pre-install competitor apps, does it get shut down? Well, it seems that as long as copyright is not infringed, everything is ok. Also it seems to me that Nintendo migh…
> Also it seems to me that Nintendo might themselves violate antitrust laws by using their monopoly power on market of Nintendo-compatible games, and not allowing enough competition there.
Nintendo is being a bully here, but what on earth does a monopoly on the market of your own platform even mean?
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
Canoe (their SNES emulator) is definitely their own creation, it's very limited and can mostly only run the games they've released with it. I think it has some similar bugs to ZSNES, but that's just because they're both crappy low-accuracy emulators.
iirc they used a open-source emu on their snes/nes mini
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that's the case. The games are copyrighted. The keys only need to constitute an effective anti-circumvention scheme (any technological measure that “effectively controls access” to a work) to be illegal to code for.
If the keys are that readily available ... I don't think it is "effective" by any definition of the word.
The DMCA definition
>>...technological measure "effectively controls access to a work" if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.