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Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Yes, better than on the Switch. (now I'm awaiting legal action from Nintendo)

Better how? The detachable joycon with accelerometer control are a mechanic in some games (eg. Zelda crossbow aim). I would imagine this would be worse experience on steam deck.

Steamdeck also has a gyro for this kind of mechanic.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

#192
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It's unbelievable how much I loath Nintendo these days. Hard to believe I use to love them growing up. I got a Nintendo switch last year from Walmart. The f*ing came used (apparently someone in the store played some Zelda in it, put it back in the box and sold to me as new). Walmart said they couldn't do anything when I emailed them about the issue. Anyways, the switch came with no games. Nothing. Zero. So, naively I…

Sounds like you have an issue with Walmart. Why would Nintendo be at fault because you bought an opened package?

As for your other comment, you can buy a Switch bundled with games or without games. Looks like you either bought the standalone console or the person you claimed sold you the used Switch took the game.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

#193
Steam deck and other handheld PC platforms should help here.

End result should be: emulator being legal as it is now, with ROMs being easy to purchase and download via official sources. This sounds like a dream; but given GOG’s success I guess it could actually happen.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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This won't matter. The goal will be to run them out of money. It's an open source project and they most likely don't have the capital to fund any sort of lengthy lawsuit.

I really wish our system had some kind of financial handicap when it came to access to the legal system. Weaponizing the legal system to bankrupt people that would be found Not Guilty shouldn't be possible.

Losing a lawsuit should make you liable for the opponent's legal funds up to the same amount you spent on yours.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Amusingly Valve themselves released an official trailer for the Steam Deck which showed Yuzu installed on the homescreen. It was quickly taken down and re-posted without any references to Yuzu, probably after a panicked email from legal. https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-edits-steam-deck-trailer-to-re...

I can play Switch games on Steam Deck!?

Yes, and it runs really well and is very easy to launch and play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW4y8juFkOI

Of course not as easy as just buying the game outright and putting in the cartridge.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

#196

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Yes, better than on the Switch. (now I'm awaiting legal action from Nintendo)

Better how? The detachable joycon with accelerometer control are a mechanic in some games (eg. Zelda crossbow aim). I would imagine this would be worse experience on steam deck.

You can play them at a higher resolution and frame rate than Switch supports. Steam Deck supports accelerometer control as well.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Hrmm. Can you explain further? What sort of inaction would make them legally liable?

If you are aware of illegal activity being committed, have preventative measures available to you and choose not to use them then you're complicit. Similar to the approach that have been used in various jurisdictions against torrent sites.

What preventative measures could they have used?

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

#198

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> Yuzu can be blamed for TotK piracy But they can be legally blamed for not taking any steps to prevent it. Which means there are two avenues for Nintendo to attack this situation.

In that case, Linux creators would be liable for not taking any steps within the Linux kernel preventing you from pirating a game on the platform.

No because the primary use of Linux is not piracy. Whereas for emulation it is.

The whole point of emulation is that you want to play content for which the original hardware no longer exists. And so there is no harm being done to anyone.

This situation is obviously quite different because Nintendo is being harmed.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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It's unbelievable how much I loath Nintendo these days. Hard to believe I use to love them growing up. I got a Nintendo switch last year from Walmart. The f*ing came used (apparently someone in the store played some Zelda in it, put it back in the box and sold to me as new). Walmart said they couldn't do anything when I emailed them about the issue. Anyways, the switch came with no games. Nothing. Zero. So, naively I…

Walmart has like the most lenient return policy imaginable (as you evidently found out). Why would you not have just returned your previously opened Switch at the regular returns counter?

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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What I'm hearing is that it solves the problem of Nintendo being to outspend the defendant. If Nintendo brings a lawsuit and spends zero dollars on court cost, it should be rather easy for the defense to also contribute zero and the lawsuit is avoided. Problem solved.

And if Nintendo spends $10 million dollars? And Yuzu spends $25,000 and maybe wins the first case but runs out of money during the appeal and defaults judgment. Nintendo gets the pot because they won right? As I pointed out to another user, this reverses the damage if they win, but does not solve the problem of preventing them from being able to win. Now if you make it where if you want to spend $5 on lawyer fees, yo…

I think the proposal is not "each side contributes to a pot and the winner takes it", it's "if one side wants to spend 10mil on a case and the other side puts in 25k, then each side has 5mil and 12.5k to spend on legal fees"
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