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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by fifilura »

starik36 wrote: post #207
rasz wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amount of years old bugs with zero activity while they keep working on new features. Opera/Vivaldi CEO is really adamant about hiding both staff and user counts. Vivaldi even removed itself from User Agent string.

If memory serves, they removed the user agent because one of the Google properties was serving it substandard HTML/JS even though they use the Chromium engine.

Yes that is likely the case.

All browsers wants to use a unique user agent.

It is the only way to prove market share => $$$.

But it is ridiculously difficult to modify it without breaking sites.

Take a look at your own user agent.

It is likely it identifies itself as gecko/mozilla/chrome/safari/IE/KHTML all in one.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by rasz »

siproprio wrote: post #235

I just can't stand the vivaldi UI. It's just too slow. Especially everything tabs feels awful. From new tab, to drag-and-drop.

Firefox: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_b4JWi49tKJUfE8oOvx...

Opera: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_Rn6fiEoSZpDpNfvzIj...

Vivaldi: https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_1KXF2VcFzD3BIAFVIJ...

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by kome »

lkozma wrote: post #177
CaptainZapp wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Firefox? It's an honest question, since as a user I really love it. Is it the 'dev-friendly', which Firefox lacks?

One small thing in the latest redesign: if you have two tabs, one active, one not, the visual cues suggest exactly the opposite. The active one seems like a clickable button, the inactive one seems pushed down and not clickable. After misclicking hundreds of times, I still couldn't train myself to go against my perception and follow the designer's "bold vision", using it feels like writing with my left hand or steeri…

ah then i'm not the only one. i had to change color scheme.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by _0w8t »

m3kw9 wrote: post #136

“ Simply put, the era of blindly trusting Big Tech is over.”, but why should I trust small tech? How are these privacy features compared with Apple?

It is really hard to subpoena a server in Iceland. Iceland gave asylum to Robert Fischer despite huge press from US to extradite him.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by bitigchi »

idoubtit wrote: post #74
bitigchi wrote: post #26

For an open-source recreation of Opera 12, there is Otter: https://otter-browser.org

I used Otter as a second browser for some time, but, despite all my empathy from the project, a few years ago I stopped. - Installing and upgrading was a pain on Linux, and compiling was even worse. At first there were no AppImage for it. Then they were created but at first they were half-broken (the whole process of creating an AppImage is hacky and Qt projects were especially hard). It seems the AppImage broke agai…

It's in the process of switching to QtWebEngine, which is the Chromium version.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by _0w8t »

merlinscholz wrote: post #223
eggman314 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Require a phone number?

https://login.vivaldi.net/profile/id/signup Last line on the page: "Before using Vivaldi Webmail and the blogging platform, we’ll ask you to verify your phone number. That’s it."

It is otherwise impossible for a small company to provide free email.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by Matthias1 »

grishka wrote: post #94
rplnt wrote: post #16

I really tried to like Vivaldi, and it could be a good browser, but is so unbearably slow. The whole UI is unresponsive. Opening a new tab can take almost a second. Price for javascript apps I guess. edit for clarification: This was on OSX, on Windows it was OK. Used it for almost a year as a secondary browser, no change, gave up.

I found a bug that slowed it down a great deal. It was the fact that they put multiple `filter` styles onto the tabs, even when those filters did nothing useful. It was still extremely taxing on the GPU driver. But, since you can customize the UI with your own CSS (there's a hidden setting you need to enable first, in vivaldi://experiments), I put a simple `* {filter: none !important}` in there. After I did, it felt…

I just did some tests and was unable to replicate your results. I'm on an i5 2019 Mac, and Vivaldi takes about 200ms to open a tab, with or without CSS filters. (200ms is bearable, but it is slower than I would like.) I have Hardware Acceleration on and Use Animation off.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by junon »

rasz wrote: post #231
junon wrote: post #219

I'm not seeing this exact question answered elsewhere, but since Vivaldi is based on Chromium, does it have any code that randomly reaches out to remote servers (including but not limited to Google) aside from, of course, those which are requested by web page content?

Almost (1) all of it got removed or has option to disable, altho not always clearly explained (2). (1) it touches Vivaldi server on startup. (2) "Google Service DNS to help resolve navigational errors" equals https://medium.com/cloud-security/google-chrome-dns-security...

Thanks!

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by bugfix »

Bayart wrote: post #211
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to clarify in case someone's wondering, a browser named Opera still exists and gets updated now, but neither the people behind it nor the underlying technology are the same as in the old Opera this post is referring to. As an old-time classic Opera user since version 5 or so, I do use the current Opera because I find it somewhat better than Chrome (it has more built-in stuff, including mouse gestures, Whatsapp/T…

Vivaldi is exactly as slow or fast as any Chromium-based browser. A this point I've surrendered to the notion of the web never getting faster, but just eating away any efficiency gains in computing. I like Vivaldi for the feature set. It's rich enough for the regular power-user, but the presentation is straightforward enough that you don't feel like you need to pimp your browser like you would Emacs. I felt home with…

There is a noticeable delay when opening a new window or moving a tab out of the main window. This happens instantly on Chrome/Edge/Brave.

I've tried switching to Vivaldi at least 5 times since release, but can't get used to this delay.

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