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Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #104

Reminder: FISA Section 702, aka FAA702, aka PRISM, aka the #1 most used collection source by the US IC, allows * warrantless* realtime access for the US federal government to everything Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta have on you.

Thank you. That completes the picture for me.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

@SiliconValleyProducers hire this guy please for the next season!

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#213

This company is so smug lol, they think it's ok to bomb kids in Iran but don't let people do some biological research

Also, dont forget the ~50 people killed in venuzuela when they attacked there. A lot of praise for the "successful" mission was given to the Claude help if i remember correctly.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/14/us-milita...

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #163

I got off from all anthropic stuff a while back. And I feel the fresh air again. No bloated reasoning or code. No vendor lock-in (due to complexity increase in code). Money saved too. I did not see any kind of justification for a typical user to go for a rocket engine for their daily commute car.

Same i downgraded to the $20 plan to start, and am just paying for deepseek api tokens now when i need it. Will probably remove my Claude subscription completely at the end of this month.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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As far as I remember OpenAI does it too even when using the API. Their reason is fraud and harmful behaviour detection. But let's be honest, does it really matter? Building a successful product does depend on so much more than the technical implementation and brainstorming you do with Fable, Mythos or any model.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when people were trying to pretend anthropic “were the good guys”?

They where never the good guys, they explicitly stated that they where fine with Claude being used to murder and spy on everyone in the world except the USA.

So much for that Effective Altruism Amodei and SBF are part of

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Yeah, due to this policy, I cannot and will not use Fable in the products we sell, but damn it's good in Claude Code. Really gonna miss it as the daily after June 22nd.

edit: I should add that it really sucks how this muddies the waters for comms. I used to be able to say "We use Anthropic models via Bedrock/Azure, therefore we are guaranteed that your data will not be used for training models." That was simple comms. Now, it's not that simple.

This really, really sucks. Not just for us, but for all AI features in b2b apps. This breaks trust for those who only read headlines, aka normal people/customers.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #103

It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…

They seemed to have changed the wording since you posted the comment, now specifying exactly 30 days with seemingly no exceptions. These terms seem to be updated at-will, so I'll take that with a grain of salt however.

That's only in the summary, farther down it says

> After 30 days, the data is deleted automatically, except in the rare cases where it's part of a safety investigation or we're legally required to keep it.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #171

That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

You have now used $20 in extra usage credits...

more like 100$ given its pricing

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seemed to have changed the wording since you posted the comment, now specifying exactly 30 days with seemingly no exceptions. These terms seem to be updated at-will, so I'll take that with a grain of salt however.

I'm not sure they can actually respect that 30 days absolute commitment. Let's say some internal tool flags a suspect conversation, it bubbles up and a human operator reads it and it looks like evidence of a crime. Then, that employee is legally bound in many jurisdictions to prevent the destruction of that piece of evidence. It's one thing to commit to a "everything is deleted when you press delete" automatic policy…

They write "We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class model". For potentially criminal content, maybe it's not "we", but "the authorities" that require the retention?

... and now I wonder if "we require retention" leaves the door open to retention that is not required, but let's say convenient.

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