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Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#91
Anthropic is desperate for the IPO and will release a half-baked product that they are so afraid to release, you can literally feel the shiver through the text of their press-release.

Now they want to have any way of either fixing it, or in case someone will actually make a big boo-boo with their model, to be able to blame the guy in the end.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#92
post #21

Fortunately I can't use Fable anyway, since their hyperactive content flaggers do not let you work on anything remotely biological or medical related (i.e. parse a CSV with some medical content, nope, you're probably a bioterrorist) and you get downgraded to Opus immediately.

My 2 cents is that doctors people with lots of money and very specific needs who generally don't really go for tech jobs, so they're probably planning to create a separate monetization tier. That, or alternatively, Mythos is so good at medical stuff, that it cam replace a lot of physician work 90% of the time, pissing off doctors, while the remaining 10% would result in very expensive lawsuits.

More likely whomever they’re consulting is protecting their own bags.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#93

Given the model intelligence plateau and public data exhaustion the only way to improve in customer use cases is by training the model on customer data.

If this is true, than Anthropic, Google and maybe OpenAI models will keep getting better and better and everyone else will be left in the dust - as they won't have access to so much customer data.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#95

It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…

Does anyone know about the jailbreaks and attacks they are referring to? These are done through model queries?

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#96
I am definitely for services respecting customer privacy, but I can't help if this is different. I recently saw a thread where a person was bragging that frontier providers were blocking their attempt at what looked like to be social media de-anonymization and blackmailing app.

Maybe this isn't different than using something like Google Sheets to keep a list of people to dox and blackmail, but the leverage certainly makes it feel different.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#97
This could be a big issue for firms with strict GDPR criteria: "This change only applies to organizations that have set up workspaces with zero data retention (ZDR) in Claude Console, use Claude Code with ZDR in Claude Enterprise, or access Claude through AWS Bedrock, Google Cloud Agent Platform, or Microsoft Foundry with ZDR. The rest of this article applies only to these organizations."

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#98
post #95

It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…

Does anyone know about the jailbreaks and attacks they are referring to? These are done through model queries?

Why would you trust anything they say at face value?

When they literally just showed you they are being deceptive by sneaking in the weasel word “almost”?

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#100
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that is your intended purpose of “git push”, it’s to save. And only if you use GitHub. A better analogy here is probably “every time you use VS Code, the files you edit get sent to Microsoft”. Some legitimate concerns: • You have trade secrets. Previously; you can use services like Bedrock, etc, with signed contracts and significant reputations. Your contract is between AWS and you, and stays within your AWS sec…

All analogies are bad.

All models are wrong, but some are useful
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