Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

Post by JustBreath » Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 1:59 PM UTC

pimterry wrote: post #23

koolba wrote: post #3

Can we just get the big three cloud players to make a new public repo? They’ve got oodles of bandwidth and storage, plus the advantage that a lot of access would be local to their private networks. Setup a non-profit, dedicate resources from each of them spendable as $X dollars of credits, and this problem is solved in a way that works for the real world. Not some federated mess that will never get off the ground.

Consensus on a new repo for public community images would help, but it isn't the biggest problem (as the author notes, GHCR does that already, and GitHub seem pretty committed to free hosting for public data, and have the Microsoft money to keep doing so indefinitely if they like). The issue I worry about is the millions of blog posts, CI builds, docker-compose files, tutorials & individual user scripts who all refer…

Post by 8organicbits » Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 2:00 PM UTC

miyuru wrote: post #87

koolba wrote: post #3

Can we just get the big three cloud players to make a new public repo? They’ve got oodles of bandwidth and storage, plus the advantage that a lot of access would be local to their private networks. Setup a non-profit, dedicate resources from each of them spendable as $X dollars of credits, and this problem is solved in a way that works for the real world. Not some federated mess that will never get off the ground.

aws already have one https://gallery.ecr.aws/

Post by phkahler » Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 2:01 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #193

nordsieck wrote: post #182

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> That's a neat idea but probably unworkable in practice. Container images need to be reliably available quickly; there is no appetite for the uncertainties surrounding the average torrent download Bittorrent seems to work quite well for linux isos, which are about the same size as containers, for obvious reasons. IMO, the big difference is that, with bittorrent, it's possible to very inexpensively add lots of semi-r…

Nobody is going to accept worrying about whether the torrent has enough people seeding in the middle of a CI run. And your usual torrent download is an explicit action with an explicit client, how are people going to seed these images and why would they? And what about the long tail?

Post by bydlocoder » Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 2:03 PM UTC

steveBK123 wrote: post #137

londons_explore wrote: post #36

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Docker should have been a neat tool made by one enthusiast, just like curl is. Instead it has a multi-million dollar company behind it, and VC's who demand profits from a thing that shouldn't have ever had a business plan.

It seems like another symptom of zirp/cheap money. Lots of ideas that could have been a neat feature or tool somehow ended up raising $500M of funding with no viable plan on ever monetizing. The fact that the product is successful but after a decade they barely make $50M/year of revenue against $500M of lifetime funding is crazy. As a user, you can work at a company with a billion in revenue and barely owe them a few…

Post by actionfromafar » Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 2:04 PM UTC

laserlight wrote: post #121

vladvasiliu wrote: post #88

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As someone who's been bitten by this, I'm not sure if it's an issue with podman itself as much as the tools which expect docker. It could be argued that podman is not a docker drop-in replacement, but I expect more and more tools to pick it up.

> It could be argued that podman is not a docker drop-in replacement This is an unfortunate part IMHO. podman is not a docker drop-in replacement, but it is advertised as such.