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Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

#31
> Start publishing images to GitHub

And when GitHub starts similar shenanigans, move out to where? I am old enough to know the we can't trust BigTech and their unpredictable behaviors.

Eventually we need to start a Codeberg like alternative using Prototype funds to be self reliant.

1: https://codeberg.org/ 2: https://prototypefund.de/

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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post #8

Hmm. > GitHub's Container Registry offers free storage for public images. But for how long?

They have a pretty good track record in code hosting (15 years), why would they ruin it for containers?

> But for how long?

applies very much to Github, and for all of their services, not just containers. The elephant in the room, hardly needs to be mentioned I would think (Microsoft). We are only a few years into that regime.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

#33

It was always unbelievable too me how much they hosted for free. I recklessly pushed over 100gbs of containers the last years, all free. Never made sense to me, even google doesn't do this anymore.

There are techniques to compress and dedup redundancies... I doubt it is real 100gbs on their disks...

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

#35

Docker the tool has been a massive benefit to software development, every now and then I have a moan about the hassle of getting something bootstrapped to run on Docker, but it's still worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. Unfortunately Docker the company appears to be dying, this is the latest in a long line…

    ideally a coop of some variety
This is the role I feel like podman, the tool developed by Red Hat, is filling.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

#36

Docker the tool has been a massive benefit to software development, every now and then I have a moan about the hassle of getting something bootstrapped to run on Docker, but it's still worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. Unfortunately Docker the company appears to be dying, this is the latest in a long line…

Docker should have been a neat tool made by one enthusiast, just like curl is.

Instead it has a multi-million dollar company behind it, and VC's who demand profits from a thing that shouldn't have ever had a business plan.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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post #9
post #4

All free tiers everywhere are going away, because someone always figures out how to run a crypto miner on them.

Storage ain't free as well, someone uploads huge images

Traffic is probably the higher cost

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

#38

> Start publishing images to GitHub And when GitHub starts similar shenanigans, move out to where? I am old enough to know the we can't trust BigTech and their unpredictable behaviors. Eventually we need to start a Codeberg like alternative using Prototype funds to be self reliant. 1: https://codeberg.org/ 2: https://prototypefund.de/

It actually sounds reasonable to me? They have an open source program, the article says its open source definition is "too strict" because it says you must have "no pathway to commercialization".

I mean why should you expect someone to host gigabytes of docker images for you, for free?

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

#39
post #5

Are they actively trying to hasten their own demise? I guess I'll be moving our (FOSS) container images to GitHub Registry... but what a pain :/

Github also charges for usage. Are they also hastening their demise?

AWS also charges you to host things in S3. Is it hastening its demise too?

This argument is just weird to me.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

#40

> Start publishing images to GitHub And when GitHub starts similar shenanigans, move out to where? I am old enough to know the we can't trust BigTech and their unpredictable behaviors. Eventually we need to start a Codeberg like alternative using Prototype funds to be self reliant. 1: https://codeberg.org/ 2: https://prototypefund.de/

We need to use a distributed system instead of a centralised one. Probably built on a source control system that can handle that.
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