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Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by sonar_un »

lev99 wrote: post #198
gravypod wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For video serving encoding technology is good enough that we don't actually have to shovel that much data over the network. Latency is the biggest issue from what I understand. Most of the amazing work google has done to make youtube fast is the magic behind google's omni-presence established world wide. Like they say in the post they have one datacenter in the EU serving this content. If they used AWS and spun up an…

I will always gladly trade a reasonable amount of upload bandwidth to avoid advertisements.

Yes, but because of the highly asynchronous bandwidth we have available trading an even little bit up upload bandwidth can be extremely detrimental to internet performance.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by sonar_un »

chrisjc wrote: post #28
rdschouw wrote: post #21

Since I’m a paying YouTube Red customer, I filed a complaint. I think if enough people write in, they’ll change their mind.

Is this something you do via the YouTubeRed app or did you literally write a complaint and emailed it in? I would like to do the same.

Seems like this could be a net neutrality issue?

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by [deleted] »

sonar_un wrote: post #201
lev99 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will always gladly trade a reasonable amount of upload bandwidth to avoid advertisements.

Yes, but because of the highly asynchronous bandwidth we have available trading an even little bit up upload bandwidth can be extremely detrimental to internet performance.

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by silentguy »

gooseus wrote: post #14
abnry wrote: post #3

I can't believe this has been going on for three days. YouTube seems like it is actively sabotaging its independent content creator's channels. But in this case it's not just some random kid living with their parent's. MIT and Blender are both respectable orgs.

I'm pretty annoyed, I was planning on using a bunch of MITOCW video series to level up some on some computer science and information theory this summer and I hadn't even gotten through the first lecture of the first series on my list (6.001 with Sussman from 1986, classic and awesome) when this stopped me in my tracks. I've been waiting patiently hoping it comes back, but at this point I feel like I'm going to have t…

You can download videos from MIT OCW website here : https://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm

You can not stream videos from the website though as streaming links are from youtube.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by vorpalhex »

notafraudster wrote: post #162
vorpalhex wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A contract in the US can't override tort law. Material change without consideration is de facto no go. This is pretty standard torts 101. You can say whatever you want in a contract but that doesn't mean the clause is valid. Furthermore ToS fall under sticker contracts which have a different level of scrutiny especially in regards to material changes post facto. YouTube knows this. This is why they are trying to get…

There was no material consideration to begin with. If I agree to paint your house for free, and put it in writing, and then later decide not to (or decide not to unless you agree to some post-hoc rule), you have no tort against me -- there was no consideration to begin with.

But you can't agree to paint my house for free, decide you would rather be paid halfway through and then prevent me from entering my house until I pay you.

That's a bit of a clumsy analogy, but the issue here is the immediate blocking of content and then demanding of pay. If Youtube instead said "Hey, you have 90 days to remove your content or let us monetize it" that would be a bit different.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by lostsock »

Analemma_ wrote: post #25

Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't? That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.

I can't see anything in the linked contract that says YT is forcing them to monetize it. Other than one email months ago that hasn't been confirmed I see nothing to suggest this is a policy change YT have actually made.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by judge2020 »

Theodores wrote: post #200
Joeboy wrote: post #8

So this seems to have happened because Youtube wants The Blender Foundation to agree to have their videos monetized. I'm not clear if they want that because of bogus copyright claims, EU legislation etc, or just because they favour making money over not making money? Edit: Either way looking for alternatives seems like a good idea.

In other news, did anyone get a 'go ad free' pop-up on YouTube today, with 3 months free? Seems there are some changes going on.

Did you see this after already taking the 3 months before? I subscribe to Red (now premium, grandfathered price) and they seem to give this popup to every user.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by kd5bjo »

mcguire wrote: post #9
OscarCunningham wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like it's connected to the fact that they had the "Allow advertisements to be displayed alongside my videos" setting turned off. https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blende...

Interesting. From the linked contract between Google and Blender: " 4. ADVERTISING " 4.1 Delivery, Ad Revenues, Payments, Reports. " Google will have the right, but not the obligation, to serve advertising in any and all Google Services, including but not limited to the display of ads on the Playback Pages and within the YouTube Video Player in conjunction with the display or playback of Provider Content and Monetize…

Some companies that make copyright claims against YouTube videos request a cut of the ad revenue instead of having the videos taken down. I'm pretty sure that "monetized content" is Google's term for these videos that you upload and Google has decided you don't really own.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by rrcaptain »

laken wrote: post #75
Applejinx wrote: post #62

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Nothing. They gain by use of a chilling effect: most of the seemingly negative actions and expectations they're known for, tend to rebound in favor of their core business. It's all meant to be Logan and Jake Paul and PewDiePie and whatever will drive low-quality mass views so long as the viewer quality isn't so low that they're losing advertisers. At a scale like this, it's just pure statistics. This is not damage. T…

Funnily enough, PewDiePie is no longer on YouTube's good-side, and virtually all of his newly uploaded videos get demonetized by YouTube. He's no longer "advertiser-friendly"

He never really was, just people are paying attention now.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by flukus »

tmpz22 wrote: post #48
Skunkleton wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other than unlikely damage to the total user critical mass effect, what does YouTube potentially lose from kicking blender out?

It seems like Google is pretty conscious of their own PR, presumably actions like this alert Youtube employees that everything they do isn't in the best interest of humanity.

Google employees work for the worlds largest spyware company. They aren't worried about being ethical.
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