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Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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I can't believe this has been going on for three days. YouTube seems like it is actively sabotaging its independent content creator's channels. But in this case it's not just some random kid living with their parent's. MIT and Blender are both respectable orgs.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#4
4 days now (since the 15th at least) and nothing out of YT. I realize that the portion of their viewers interested in MIT OCW or Blender is small, compared to the portion interested in FNAF and dental surgery on characters from Frozen... but it's also probably the portion they want to piss off least as an internet company.

ed: see below comment from OscarCunningham

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Why has YouTube blocked their videos worldwide?

Looks like it's connected to the fact that they had the "Allow advertisements to be displayed alongside my videos" setting turned off. https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blende...

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

#8
So this seems to have happened because Youtube wants The Blender Foundation to agree to have their videos monetized.

I'm not clear if they want that because of bogus copyright claims, EU legislation etc, or just because they favour making money over not making money?

Edit: Either way looking for alternatives seems like a good idea.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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post #2

Why has YouTube blocked their videos worldwide?

Looks like it's connected to the fact that they had the "Allow advertisements to be displayed alongside my videos" setting turned off. https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blende...

Interesting. From the linked contract between Google and Blender:

"4. ADVERTISING

"4.1 Delivery, Ad Revenues, Payments, Reports.

"Google will have the right, but not the obligation, to serve advertising in any and all Google Services, including but not limited to the display of ads on the Playback Pages and within the YouTube Video Player in conjunction with the display or playback of Provider Content and Monetized Content. Provider will receive 55% of Ad Revenues recognised by Google . If one or more Google content providers claim a portion of Monetized Content for monetization through the Content ID system, Provider will receive a pro rata share of the Ad Revenues that would otherwise be due, with such pro rata share to be determined by Google in its reasonable discretion . Recognized revenues do not include items listed in clause 4.3 or taxes. Payments to Provider for Ad Revenues will be sent by Google within approximately sixty (60) days after the end of any calendar month, provided that Provider’s earned balance is $100 or more in the aggregate. When Provider’s monthly earned balance is less than $100, there will be no payment and the balance will accumulate until it exceeds $100, at which time it will be paid to Provider in accordance with the preceding sentence. Any payments to Provider will be made in the manner that Google pays its partners. Google reserves the right to retain all other revenues derived from Google Services, including without limitation any revenues from ads that may appear on any search results pages. Within thirty (30) days of the end of each month, Google will provide Provider with usage reports in the form generally made available to partners at that time . Google may create an account for Provider to access information about payments owed to Provider. To ensure proper payment, Provider is responsible for providing and maintaining accurate contact and payment information associated with its account."

The interesting statement is the first sentence: "Google will have the right [...] to serve advertising in any and all Google Services, including but not limited to the display of ads on the Playback Pages and within the YouTube Video Player in conjunction with the display or playback of Provider Content and Monetized Content."

"Monitized Content", judging by other parts of the license, appears to be those videos that have "allow ads" checkbox; "Provider Content" are those without that check.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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I'm curious what YouTube's real numbers are for YouTube profitability. Are these channels at such high subscriber rates that they're cutting into YouTube's ability to sustain themselves?

They recently demonetized all of the Salad Fingers videos, causing David Firth to remove all those videos from YouTube and only allowing them to Patreon subscribers via Vimeo.

I hope this pushes towards more independent, distributed toob sites. YouTube is simply too big a monolith.

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