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Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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I'm curious what YouTube's real numbers are for YouTube profitability. Are these channels at such high subscriber rates that they're cutting into YouTube's ability to sustain themselves? They recently demonetized all of the Salad Fingers videos, causing David Firth to remove all those videos from YouTube and only allowing them to Patreon subscribers via Vimeo. I hope this pushes towards more independent, distributed…

I think that the single search box with consistent UX is the killer feature. Subscription is too, in another way. Alternatives need to address these; I believe federated video services / toobs are the only way to aim for the first. Subscriptions should be replaced with RSS.

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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post #19

I'm curious what YouTube's real numbers are for YouTube profitability. Are these channels at such high subscriber rates that they're cutting into YouTube's ability to sustain themselves? They recently demonetized all of the Salad Fingers videos, causing David Firth to remove all those videos from YouTube and only allowing them to Patreon subscribers via Vimeo. I hope this pushes towards more independent, distributed…

I think that the single search box with consistent UX is the killer feature. Subscription is too, in another way. Alternatives need to address these; I believe federated video services / toobs are the only way to aim for the first. Subscriptions should be replaced with RSS.

I stopped using the YouTube site long ago. I only subscribe via Feedly/RSS and watch the videos I want directly with 99% no ads even without an adblocker via the embeded video player.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Looks like it's connected to the fact that they had the "Allow advertisements to be displayed alongside my videos" setting turned off. https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blende...

Is such a requirement in YouTube's terms of usage? If yes, YouTube should have notified the affected channels first and ask them to change their settings or leave.

Yes, but they might get more money cold-sending monetization contracts a la those junk letters you get that say "SECOND NOTICE PAST DUE" on them.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't?

That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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I made a video about this in January, before YouTube strongarmed Blender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ksbTTXHw8 I am pretty dismayed to be this right. I didn't think YT would be nearly this aggressive in service of the ideas I outlined. Basically, they take a cut off that activity. In some cases they could take most of or all the money, which is a clear win for them, but even when they pay out they're earning r…

Well, they picked the wrong org to gamble on strongarming in the case of Blender. Instead of getting them to monetize they've just compelled Blender to move platforms.

Other than unlikely damage to the total user critical mass effect, what does YouTube potentially lose from kicking blender out?

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Since I’m a paying YouTube Red customer, I filed a complaint. I think if enough people write in, they’ll change their mind.

Is this something you do via the YouTubeRed app or did you literally write a complaint and emailed it in? I would like to do the same.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a video about this in January, before YouTube strongarmed Blender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ksbTTXHw8 I am pretty dismayed to be this right. I didn't think YT would be nearly this aggressive in service of the ideas I outlined. Basically, they take a cut off that activity. In some cases they could take most of or all the money, which is a clear win for them, but even when they pay out they're earning r…

Well, they picked the wrong org to gamble on strongarming in the case of Blender. Instead of getting them to monetize they've just compelled Blender to move platforms.

Blender serves as an optimal test case for other large non-profits with online video content that Google may push off YouTube (would love to see PyCon move their archives off as well).

Discovery and subscriptions will need to be solved, but that’s not insurmountable (ie RSS). CDNs can be plug and play in front of nginx (if P2P torrent isn't your cup of tea), backend storage can be whatever is cheapest.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Since I’m a paying YouTube Red customer, I filed a complaint. I think if enough people write in, they’ll change their mind.

As a fellow paying YouTube Red customer, this hadn't occurred to me. I shall do so as well.
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