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HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Post by olafmol »

dwedge wrote: post #150
WestCoader wrote: post #6

Nothing is pissing me off more than GitHub's stability going down the tubes RIGHT as work is migrating everything, and I mean everything, from CircleCI to GH. The wildest thing is that Azure Repos/Pipelines was better than this. Their one caveat is also that they are still migrating it to Azure infra, so it's possible that's still in a one foot in one foot out kinda scenario, from what I've heard. But, this isn't ins…

Two weeks ago I had a commission to explore migrating from selfhosted gitlab to github for better AI integration. Last night that project was cancelled due to github outages and we're going to upgrade the self hosted server instead. I'd be tempted to use something like forgejo but there are a dozen devs and honestly I've only ever used it solo.

Out of interest: what does "better AI integration" mean? Any specific functional or non-functional requirements?

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Post by olafmol »

motbus3 wrote: post #46
anilakar wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We were on self-hosted Gitlab but after a merger were forced to Github. Navigation feels painful in comparison and basic features such as commit graph are now behind more expensive tiers.

Interesting! I worked with Gitlab and I also thought it was quite clunky. If it was not for the stability issues GitHub is fine. Any other alternatives to GH or GL?

Gitea might be an option also.

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Post by dspillett »

joombaga wrote: post #132
aprilnya wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

„I don’t use any of GitHub’s non-git features, so if you use them you have a problem”

Who are you quoting?

That was paraphrasing, rather than quoting.

The post being replied to essentially said “I don't use the features that have been regularly broken in recent times, or where the features I do use [core git] were broken it luckily didn't affect me, so anyone thinking of leaving has a mental problem”.

Or to paraphrase the old joke:

Q: How many programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: The sunlight through the windows here is working fine, if you can't see where you are that must be a “you” problem.

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Post by shevy-java »

Objectively we can not say "this is the beginning of the end of GitHub". Many people use GitHub daily still. But I think this right now is kind of a period of where GitHub is sliding into a bigger crisis. I am noticing this, among other things (including reddit and Hackernews in the last ~4 weeks becoming more and more critical of Microslop, 'xcuse me, Microsoft, which controls GitHub of course) when I look at the recent blog entries made by GitHub staff - the three latest being:

27th April 2026: Starting June 1, your Copilot usage will consume GitHub AI Credits.

28th April 2026: An update on GitHub availability

28th April 2026:Securing the git push pipeline bla bla bla critical remote code vulnerability bla bla bla

In particular the GitHub availability is interesting. When I read it, it almost sounded like a plea to "believe in us still, guys!!!". If you then read what the ghostty author wrote, something between the blog post from GitHub, and the outside world, no longer matches. GitHub is like on the titanic, they see the iceberg part above water and say "nothing to see here, this ship is invincible" (aka AI is invincible). Meanwhile everyone else already jumps off the ship ...

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Post by codechicago277 »

ori_b wrote: post #112
jodrellblank wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They say it is at least one order of magnitude[1]; " our plan to increase GitHub’s capacity by 10X in October 2025 .. By February 2026, it was clear that we needed to design for a future that requires 30X today’s scale. " [1] https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/an-update-on-...

Note the lack of concrete numbers on how much they have scaled. Somebody may have just asked an LLM for projections.

https://gitcharts.com shows ~310 million public repos today, vs. 250 million in April 2025 (according to the wayback machine).

Large increase, but nothing existential.

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Post by empath75 »

mitchell_h wrote: post #141
nicoburns wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're claiming a huge increase in traffic due to vibe coded projects. It might just be an excuse, but it certainly seems plausible to me.

They can claim that...but if you've built a public SaaS before you know the job is not to host the software, it's to put rails around people taking it down. They've had since 2008 to build those rails, and they're just now hitting places that take the service down on the regular?

The problem is that they are charging per seat and need to start charging for usage.

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Post by dwedge »

olafmol wrote: post #191
dwedge wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two weeks ago I had a commission to explore migrating from selfhosted gitlab to github for better AI integration. Last night that project was cancelled due to github outages and we're going to upgrade the self hosted server instead. I'd be tempted to use something like forgejo but there are a dozen devs and honestly I've only ever used it solo.

Out of interest: what does "better AI integration" mean? Any specific functional or non-functional requirements?

I didn't challenge them on this but it's because of Claude integrations with github. I'm not sure what that gives them over just running it against the codebase, but I didn't want to lose the opportunity to finally move them from that EoL server
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