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HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Post by cocoflunchy »

mettamage wrote: post #118
sikozu wrote: post #9

With Ghostty being the latest project to leave GitHub, it does make me wonder who will leave next. I don't expect everybody and their nan to leave GitHub by next wednesday and spin up their own Forgejo server, but I do think GitHub should be worried that people are finally looking to move away from them.

I'm a bit out of the loop, why are people moving away from Github?

Mainly this https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/ But also product decisions that don't seem to be aligned with the preferences of users... see https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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Post by alper »

sikozu wrote: post #9

With Ghostty being the latest project to leave GitHub, it does make me wonder who will leave next. I don't expect everybody and their nan to leave GitHub by next wednesday and spin up their own Forgejo server, but I do think GitHub should be worried that people are finally looking to move away from them.

The entrenchment here is ridiculous. The average software engineer does not care at all about their vcs or their forge and their knowledge of both is extremely shallow.

For the people who want to do their work and get on with their life, it does not really matter that much.

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Post by Mashimo »

xp84 wrote: post #116
Mashimo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question, why are companies interested in hosting on github? As a private person I use it too as a free hoster, but from work I mainly know self hosted instances of jenkins and TeamCity.

I think you’ve got it backwards. GitHub is by far the market leader for hosted repositories and maybe for CI too. This is like asking “Why are companies interested in using AWS?” When one firm is so dominant for so long, the question is more like “Why shouldn’t we just use GitHub like 80% of software companies do?” The issues they’ve had are almost all very recent. Very few companies have reevaluated that decision, b…

> I think you’ve got it backwards. GitHub is by far the market leader for hosted repositories

Maybe, but I never heard about any company using github for internal projects in my real life. For me it was always to go to for open source projects.

Then again it's not a topic that often comes up in my developer circles.

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Post by bensyverson »

alper wrote: post #122
sikozu wrote: post #9

With Ghostty being the latest project to leave GitHub, it does make me wonder who will leave next. I don't expect everybody and their nan to leave GitHub by next wednesday and spin up their own Forgejo server, but I do think GitHub should be worried that people are finally looking to move away from them.

The entrenchment here is ridiculous. The average software engineer does not care at all about their vcs or their forge and their knowledge of both is extremely shallow. For the people who want to do their work and get on with their life, it does not really matter that much.

Exactly. I run my own Gitea server, but put my stuff on Github, because that's where the people are. Self-hosting an MP3 is not the same as being on Spotify.

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Post by bellowsgulch »

I’m certain I’m up there in the 1% of users, or close to it, that are writing software daily in terms of consistent prolonged volume of work and work that is actually used by others over the past nearly 20 years based on user activity statistics I’ve collected.

I, too, am a fairly, but not immediate early user of GitHub. Despite GitHub’s poor metrics, I am still shipping, because writing software doesn’t require GitHub.

Hashimoto’s comments sound disturbed and I hope he finds some peace, but if he wasn’t who he was and you read these comments, you’d think this person had a problem. So, I think he does.

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Post by miroljub »

strenholme wrote: post #100
motbus3 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting! I worked with Gitlab and I also thought it was quite clunky. If it was not for the stability issues GitHub is fine. Any other alternatives to GH or GL?

Self-hosting with open source code: - SourceHut: https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/sourcehut/ - Forgejo (used by Codeberg, etc.): https://forgejo.org/

SourceHut never really clicked for me. It doesn't give me anything useful that I don't already have in a bare git repo through a ssh.

Forgejo, on the other hand, is a drop-in replacement for GitHub.

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Post by michaelcampbell »

sph wrote: post #89
dzonga wrote: post #34

You gotta admire journalists. Such a one punch sentence that distills the message with a little bit of dramatic flair. got damn, anyone got recommendations on how to write like a journalist ?

Take a sentence for a title, replace one of the verbs with SLAM, LAMBAST and CLAPS BACK, you're hired. The rest of the article can be AI generated, don't fret about it.

Don't forget the "..., and no one/nothing is ing" clause.

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Post by aprilnya »

bellowsgulch wrote: post #125

I’m certain I’m up there in the 1% of users, or close to it, that are writing software daily in terms of consistent prolonged volume of work and work that is actually used by others over the past nearly 20 years based on user activity statistics I’ve collected. I, too, am a fairly, but not immediate early user of GitHub. Despite GitHub’s poor metrics, I am still shipping, because writing software doesn’t require GitH…

„I don’t use any of GitHub’s non-git features, so if you use them you have a problem”

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Post by goalieca »

mettamage wrote: post #118
sikozu wrote: post #9

With Ghostty being the latest project to leave GitHub, it does make me wonder who will leave next. I don't expect everybody and their nan to leave GitHub by next wednesday and spin up their own Forgejo server, but I do think GitHub should be worried that people are finally looking to move away from them.

I'm a bit out of the loop, why are people moving away from Github?

Zero to one nines of uptime. Shoving copilot in everyone’s faces rather than focusing on quality. Threatening to charge people for self-hosted runners.
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