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HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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I’m certain I’m up there in the 1% of users, or close to it, that are writing software daily in terms of consistent prolonged volume of work and work that is actually used by others over the past nearly 20 years based on user activity statistics I’ve collected. I, too, am a fairly, but not immediate early user of GitHub. Despite GitHub’s poor metrics, I am still shipping, because writing software doesn’t require GitH…

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Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

#132

I’m certain I’m up there in the 1% of users, or close to it, that are writing software daily in terms of consistent prolonged volume of work and work that is actually used by others over the past nearly 20 years based on user activity statistics I’ve collected. I, too, am a fairly, but not immediate early user of GitHub. Despite GitHub’s poor metrics, I am still shipping, because writing software doesn’t require GitH…

„I don’t use any of GitHub’s non-git features, so if you use them you have a problem”

Who are you quoting?

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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I’m certain I’m up there in the 1% of users, or close to it, that are writing software daily in terms of consistent prolonged volume of work and work that is actually used by others over the past nearly 20 years based on user activity statistics I’ve collected. I, too, am a fairly, but not immediate early user of GitHub. Despite GitHub’s poor metrics, I am still shipping, because writing software doesn’t require GitH…

> I, too, am a fairly, but not immediate early user of GitHub. Despite GitHub’s poor metrics, I am still shipping, because writing software doesn’t require GitHub.

GitHub’s downtime is a problem for issue tracking, PR merging, contributing and reviewing PRs, and more.

Your exact point was already pre-addressed in the blog post because it’s so predictable that some would completely miss the point. GitHub’s downtime isn’t about stopping you from writing code on your own machine.

> Hashimoto’s comments sound disturbed and I hope he finds some peace, but if he wasn’t who he was and you read these comments, you’d think this person had a problem. So, I think he does.

What a gross ad hominem about someone’s mental health. Please don’t do this.

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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post #9

With Ghostty being the latest project to leave GitHub, it does make me wonder who will leave next. I don't expect everybody and their nan to leave GitHub by next wednesday and spin up their own Forgejo server, but I do think GitHub should be worried that people are finally looking to move away from them.

I'm a bit out of the loop, why are people moving away from Github?

> GitHub saw a 58% year-over-year increase in the number of incidents, reaching 109 reported cases: > 17 of them were classified as major, leading to over 100 hours of total disruption. > April stood out as the most turbulent month, with incidents accumulating to 330 hours and 6 minutes.

https://gitprotect.io/blog/devops-threats-unwrapped-mid-year...

That's from 2025 but it continued getting even worse this year.

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question, have you been part of an org that had to scale orders of magnitude very quickly? Anyone who has been part of that journey knows how painful it really is. A lot of times the systems to fail at all levels, and you have to redesign it from the first principles.

Is GitHub scaling by orders of magnitude though? That would be an insane increase at this stage of their lifecycle.

I wouldn't be surprised. Have you not noticed the sheer volume of slop being posted everywhere these days? Almost all of that is hosted on Github. And some of those repos have insane commit frequencies.

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question, have you been part of an org that had to scale orders of magnitude very quickly? Anyone who has been part of that journey knows how painful it really is. A lot of times the systems to fail at all levels, and you have to redesign it from the first principles.

> Serious question, have you been part of an org that had to scale orders of magnitude very quickly? I have, but it depends what you mean. Scenario 1: e-commerce SaaS (think: Amazon but whitelabel, and before CPUs even had AES instructions); Christmas was "fun". Scenario 2: Video Games. The first day is the worst day when it comes to scale. Everything has to be flawless from day 0 and you get no warning as to what ca…

I think you meant "green fields" and not "clean room"? Clean room refers to reverse engineering an existing program to create specifications, then having another team implement the specifications without legal risk from involving the original.

Re: HashiCorp co-founder says GitHub 'no longer a place for serious work'

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They say it is at least one order of magnitude[1]; " our plan to increase GitHub’s capacity by 10X in October 2025 .. By February 2026, it was clear that we needed to design for a future that requires 30X today’s scale. " [1] https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/an-update-on-...

Note the lack of concrete numbers on how much they have scaled. Somebody may have just asked an LLM for projections.

Would Microsoft lawyers OK that?

GitHub would have obligations to MS investors to make accurate projections just like Microsoft itself, right?

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