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AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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Do you use biometric data to predict the weather?

I trained a CV model to tell me the temp when I stand in front of the mirror based on if my nipples are hard or not, and how hard or soft they are.

Ah, it detects if it’s a bit nippy? ;)

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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People said that about GDPR. Laws that don't leave any room for interpretation are bound to have loopholes that pose unacceptable risk to the population.

I think its quite clear gdpr has indeed lead to lower investment and delayed or cancelled products in Europe

Can you share any data?

It's also quite clear that places without strong privacy protections like the US are developing into dystopian hellscapes.

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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I am not expert but there seems to be an overlap in the article between 'AI' and well ... just software, or signal processing: - AI that collects “real time” biometric data in public places for the purposes of law enforcement. - AI that creates — or expands — facial recognition databases by scraping images online or from security cameras. - AI that uses biometrics to infer a person’s characteristics - AI that collect…

As somebody told me recently, now AI means any program that does something that people think is AI, even if programs doing that thing have been with us for ten years or more with the same degree of accuracy.

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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post #190

Never forget the EU is run by lobbies by design. So usually those scary regulations are not what they seem to be. Here is what happened in most corporations when GDPR came out: - An new Chief Privacy Officer would be appointed, - A series of studies would be conducted by big consulting firms with a review of all processes and data flow across the organisation, - After many meeting they would conclude that a move to t…

It is not true. If you outsource, GDPR applies all the same. And companies had to literally implement changes into their software and literally did. GDPR applies to data in cloud too.

Indeed.

“Where processing is to be carried out on behalf of a controller, the controller shall use only processors providing sufficient guarantees to implement appropriate technical and organisational measures in such a manner that processing will meet the requirements of this Regulation and ensure the protection of the rights of the data subject.”

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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It seems to me the key phrase in that definition is "that may exhibit adaptiveness after deployment" - If your code doesn't change its own operation without needing to be redeployed, it's not AI under this definition. If adaptation requires deployment, such as pushing a new version, that's not AI.

I'm not sure what they intended this to apply to. LLM based systems don't change their own operation (at least, not more so than anything with a database). We'll probably have to wait until they fine someone a zillion dollars to figure out what they actually meant.

It's as if the person who wrote it, their entire understanding of AI is based solely on depictions from science fiction.

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> In addition, common and legitimate commercial practices, for example in the field of advertising, that comply with the applicable law should not, in themselves, be regarded as constituting harmful manipulative AI-enabled practices. https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/recital/29/

Broadly speaking, I feel whenever you have to build into a law specific cave outs for perfectly innocuous behavior that would otherwise be illegal under the law as written, it's not a very well thought out law. Either the behavior in question is actually bad in which case there shouldn't be exceptions, or there's actually nothing inherently wrong with it in which case you have misidentified the actual problem and are…

We, as society, allow legacy implementations to exist all the time. This is one of these times.

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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I think its quite clear gdpr has indeed lead to lower investment and delayed or cancelled products in Europe

GDPR is one of the best pieces of legislation to come out of the EU this century. It is the utter bane if "move fast and break things", and I'm so glad to have it. I will never understand the submissive disposition of Americans to billionaires who sell them out. They are all about being rugged Cow Boys while smashing systems that foster their own well-being. It's like their pathology to be independent makes them shoo…

It is because they want to be those oppressors. And they think this type of legislation might prevent them from being such. They want to be rich and exploit other people as much as possible with little as possible consequences.

Re: AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

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post #55

Laws that are open to interpretation with drastic consequences if it's interpreted against your favour pose unacceptable risk to business investors and stifle innovation.

There is no law that isn't open to interpretation. There is a reason for the judicial branch of government.

Well, the laws in civil law countries that practice legal literalism are not open to interpretation. Eastern Europe, much of which is a part of the EU, is quite literalist.

The understanding is that interpreting laws leads to bias, partiality, and injustice; while following the letter of the law equally in each situation is the most just approach.

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