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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by 3825 »

sfotm wrote: post #163
N1H1L wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Columbus and Cincy are great. Cleveland is iffy and too snowy in my opinion

I'm an Ohio native that's recently moved back to the Columbus area myself. I know the area pretty intimately. Happy to respond to any questions about the area, as I'd love for there to be a larger tech scene around here.

Two questions, does the area have symmetric gigabit fiber? If so, how reliable is it in your opinion? If not, what is the best option for multiple family members working from home?

How are water, electricity, sewage, road condition, utilities situation? Any reasons why a work from home worker might not want to live there?

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by 55873445216111 »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #178

> An initial $20 billion investment - the largest in Ohio's history - on a 1,000-acre site in New Albany will create 3,000 jobs I grew up just north of there. An Intel factory nearby would be good news for anyone in the rust belt. I hope this doesn't fizzle out like Wisconsin's Foxconn plant.

There are always unknowns, but Intel is a much more reliable partner than Foxconn. The Wisconsin Foxconn deal smelled very fishy from day 1 IMO.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by justin66 »

nickthegreek wrote: post #147
N1H1L wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Columbus and Cincy are great. Cleveland is iffy and too snowy in my opinion

I am very happy in Columbus. I hear Cleveland has better nightlife, but I came from up that way and the snow difference between Columbus and Cleveland is huge. I do not miss it.

Has snowplow service improved at all in Columbus? I was always struck by how bad it was compared to Cleveland. They got less snow, but dealt with the snow they got pretty badly.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by theandrewbailey »

jnorthrop wrote: post #129
gaoshan wrote: post #122

This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…

Not to mention low probability of natural disasters: Earthquakes, tornados, wild fire, hurricanes, etc.

Half of Ohio is flat, and gets lots of storms that blow through the plains and prairies from the west, so not exactly low probability of tornadoes.

Source: I grew up in central Ohio. Public schools made it a point to practice tornado drills. In addition, there was an old Cold War-era air raid siren a block from the house I grew up in that had been repurposed and tested for tornado warnings. One of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9rRSY0dRIU

Edit: read about Xenia, Ohio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia,_Ohio

> Xenia has a history of severe storm activity. According to local legend, the Shawnee referred to the area as "the place of the devil wind" or "the land of the crazy winds" (depending upon the translation).

> On April 3, 1974, a tornado rated F5 on the Fujita scale cut a path directly through the middle of Xenia during the 1974 Super Outbreak

> Xenia was struck by an F2 tornado on April 25, 1989, and again by an F4 tornado on September 20, 2000.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by gaoshan »

kragen wrote: post #172
MathCodeLove wrote: post #130

I've actually been considering a move to Ohio this June. Any suggestions for whetr in Ohio I should look? My main consideration is low CoL as I work remotely but I'd like there to be stuff to do within a reasonable driving distance.

Moving to Ohio was one of the worst decisions I made in my life. Dayton is proud of its history of innovation but most of the innovators left for California 50 years ago where innovation was allowed. What's left is the lumbering bureaucracies and sprawling empires that grew from the innovators' products: NCR, the GM plant, Otis.

The region you live in matters greatly. Take Dayton. It doesn't impact me as I have not been anywhere near Dayton in all the years I've live in Ohio. Columbus, on the other hand, is a really nice city with a great vibe. I'm guessing it could be like saying, "Don't move to California. Moving to Riverside was the worst decision of my life." The real message is don't move to places that are down and out.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by theandrewbailey »

RC_ITR wrote: post #84
jdhn wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're building the plant near Columbus, which isn't near the Great Lakes. If they wanted Great Lakes water they would've chosen Cleveland, which is very close to Lake Erie.

Semantically, damning water in the Great Lakes Watershed (how Columbus get's its water) is not THAT different from letting that water flow into Lake Erie and then piping it back. Point being, Ohio has very few long-term drought concerns.

> Semantically, damning water in the Great Lakes Watershed (how Columbus get's its water)

Wrong. Columbus gets most of its water from the Scioto River, part of the Ohio/Mississippi River watershed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scioto_River

You might be thinking about Cleveland instead, but I don't think anyone dares drink from the Cuyahoga River, since its had a history of catching fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by ensan »

rotten wrote: post #99
ensan wrote: post #58

When it comes to proximity research institutions, the choice of location is strange to me. Somewhere in the northern Indiana/Illinois/Michigan (i.e. "Greater Michiana") would have made a lot more sense. That way, you would be close to, UIUC, Northwestern, UChicago, UMichigan, Purdue, Notre Dame, UIndiana, Argonne National Lab, etc.

The Ohio State University is in Columbus and if not the largest university in the world it is in the top 3.

The number of enrolled students is not a good argument here.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by justin66 »

kragen wrote: post #179
N1H1L wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

CMU, CWRU, UMich, UIUC, and Indiana U are wonderful schools, but none of them are in Ohio [correction: I'm an idiot, CWRU is]. OSU doesn't belong in that list.

I can assure you that CWRU is still in Cleveland, Ohio.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by thehappypm »

jdhn wrote: post #35
missedthecue wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ohio is situated on the great lakes and therefore has a lot of cheaply available water, while Arizona does not. Chip production is water intensive. Not to mention the vast expanses of cheap land, and their electricity costs are pretty low as well. These could be reasons.

They're building the plant near Columbus, which isn't near the Great Lakes. If they wanted Great Lakes water they would've chosen Cleveland, which is very close to Lake Erie.

Are you from California? It rains a ton in that part of the country, water is not scarce. It’s hard for Californians to wrap their heads around but water is not universally rare.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by destitude »

gaoshan wrote: post #122

This is actually a brilliant location for them. One of those places that has much more going for it than people not from the region would realize. International airport, large rail depot, extremely low cost of living and a city/region that has more good restaurants and activities than might be expected. Ohio State University is in the city and is a huge school that is rapidly growing in academic standing. Road transi…

They are extremely anti-renewable energy though. There was attempt (not sure if it passed) to make wind turbines illegal.
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