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I feel like that should definitely be a thing. The 13-inch MacBook Pros of today seem oddly space constrained compared to the non-Retina MacBook Air I used years ago. But maybe I’m wrong.
I love the colour of the page 'bleeding' into the 'tab area' - providing they can maintain a decent level of contrast. It looks really nice in the provided example. Of course, I hope they've used `<meta name="theme-color"...` instead of the background colour so pages with a white background and a black header don't end up with white chrome.
They do use theme-color and only fallback to either page background color or header background color when theme-color is not present[1][2] [1]: https://files.grid.in.th/z3ox7o.jpg [2]: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2021/10029/
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A simple question. Why change something that already works for everyone? To solve which problem exactly? I understand redesigning UIs when that redesign affords you some new capabilities for new features you want to add. I don't, however, understand redesigns that just move things around without adding anything new. Android 12 is the prime example of this right now. Android 11, which I currently have on my phone, wor…
I have the opposite question: why do people let themselves get upset over UI changes? Why don’t people seem to take pride in their ability to adapt to change? Change is inevitable. Even if we stipulate that change sometimes happens for bad reasons, like someone wanting a promotion, it’s not like bad reasons are suddenly going to disappear. People are still going to want promotions a year from now, or 10 years from no…
Because a UI is a tool I use to get something done. I don't like when the thing I've been using intuitively gets changed so I have to learn to use it again. It's a tool. It's not an art piece.
> Why don’t people seem to take pride in their ability to adapt to change?
Because this adaptation doesn't make their lives any better. It's change for the sake of change. It's like weather, except weather isn't quite controllable, but these changes are deliberately introduced by other people to mess with you for no good reason.
> Change is inevitable.
Progress is inevitable. Moving things around isn't progress. Progress implies adding something.
> Even if we stipulate that change sometimes happens for bad reasons, like someone wanting a promotion
The incentive structure in most IT companies is wildly wrong, I'll say that. No one at Google got promoted for maintaining an existing product because afaik promotion requires completing a "big project". So the easiest "big project" is a UI redesign. The second easiest is apparently an instant messaging app.
> Why not take the approach of “let’s see how I can adapt to this”?
Let's see. I adapted to this by avoiding installing any major updates unless absolutely necessary. Security patches are fine tho.
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> UI changes are only good if they improve usability. This is true only if usability is all you care about. In the real world people like things with good aesthetics, and like beautiful things, and it’s important for Apple to make things that users like. If looks didn’t matter every user interface and website would be plain and high-contrast.
A "plain and high-contrast" UI sounds like a good thing TBH.
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Does the “reduce animations” accessibility toggle help at all here?
I found that to just change the animations to fade instead of scale/pan. The duration is unaffected, it just makes it flatter and uglier. I wonder how fast things would feel if you could disable all animations, Windows XP style.
There’s no way in iOS anymore to avoid all of the weird transition animations. Reduce motion hardly does anything at all anymore.
In fact, it’s even more jarring than with animations.
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A simple question. Why change something that already works for everyone? To solve which problem exactly? I understand redesigning UIs when that redesign affords you some new capabilities for new features you want to add. I don't, however, understand redesigns that just move things around without adding anything new. Android 12 is the prime example of this right now. Android 11, which I currently have on my phone, wor…
I have the opposite question: why do people let themselves get upset over UI changes? Why don’t people seem to take pride in their ability to adapt to change? Change is inevitable. Even if we stipulate that change sometimes happens for bad reasons, like someone wanting a promotion, it’s not like bad reasons are suddenly going to disappear. People are still going to want promotions a year from now, or 10 years from no…
Secondly, the complaints come because, for many of us, our computers and phones feel like an extension of our offices and homes. We're staring at these screens for the majority of waking hours. The UI is basically part of the furniture. Many people would feel resentful if their chairs, couches, and doorknobs were changed without permission every year as part of some update. They're going to have similar feelings about the electronic portions of their spaces.
On the subject of optimal use of horizontal/vertical screen space:
Vivaldi's killer feature is native support for vertical tabs, which is a better solution both for large number of tabs and for being able to read their titles easily.
If memory serves me, it also supports a tab-tree, ie. each tab's children are indented under it, which is a really cool way to browse.
You with tree-style tabs you can see where everything came from, instead of just throwing it in a big pile.
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Who really needs an address bar spanning the entire width of their screen? If you run into an URL that long then it's highly unlikely to contain useful information anyway. Or do you regularly notice yourself scanning through 400 characters of query string gibberish and thinking "that information was so useful that I always need all of it on screen"?
You don't. But why use that space to put the tab bar which DOES require the entire width? Chrome's and Firefox's compromise seems good enough where they stuff everything else to the right and left of the address bar except tabs. This Safari change is just awful
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UI changes are only good if they improve usability. By far most UI changes these days are only done for the sake of looking different and "fresh", UI design has become purely fashion driven. Where's the scientific research and white papers going along with the Safari UI changes which clearly justify point by point why every single change makes sense, all backed by user studies? All I usually see is "emotional bullshi…
> Where's the scientific research and white papers going along with the Safari UI changes which clearly justify point by point why every single change makes sense, all backed by user studies? Are you being hyperbolic, or is this your actual position? That’s a ridiculously high bar that most organizations could not muster (and there’s no way Apple would release that stuff publicly anyway). “Emotional bullshit” is so n…
> If a UI designer can change an interface to please me a little more, that’s a good thing.
Without observing actual users, how do you know if you are pleasing them, or just pleasing yourself?
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S/UI/clothing; your argument suggests the move to add color to fabric doesn’t make sense because it is simply fashion and has aught to do with the interface presented by a shirt. I think the parent comment nails it on subjectivity; the form of a thing is as much a part as its function. The luxury goods industry attests as much.
Poor analogy. A better one for clothing would be to remove the button and zipper from pants for a cleaner look.