They seem to have nice products but when people compare JetBrains tooling to Vim, Emacs and VSCode everyone seems to leave out the fact that those tools are 100% free. I think it’s important for coding to be open to as many people as possible and the tools are the point of entry.
JetBrains does have a free tier, fwiw. It’s quite powerful too (I say this as an avid vim user)
I didn’t think Jetbrains had a free tier other than for IntelliJ. Everything else has a trial but no community edition (as far as I’m aware).
I'm a big fan of the way JetBrains sells their licenses. Like a lot of software companies nowadays, they only sell licenses on a subscription basis. But with a very customer-friendly clause of where if you pay for a subscription for 12 months you get a perpetual license for the latest version of the product when you initially subscribed. And then after paying for any particular version of a product for 12 months, you…
True; that's the only subscription model I find acceptable for software that hardly changes in meaningful ways. For example, I refuse to upgrade Git Tower to version 3 as a protest against fournova's new licensing. Up to that point, I was a loyal customer and product advocate, basically buying every upgrade anyway, but by my own choice. Instead, I'll be on version 2 "forever", despite all its flaws. It was even worse for Windows users, who bought licenses (on my advice, sometimes...) for a thing that realistically speaking never came out of beta. To have a usable product to begin with, they suddenly needed to pay for a subscription. There was zero response to my email explaining this, so there's that. Now I'm keeping my eyes open for alternatives.
I can’t tell you how many times my use of very vanilla Emacs with zero jedi / autocomplete / search features has saved me in my career. It’s so critical to use text editors for software development and extract all other functionality to separate shell tools. If a mix of very simple vim or Emacs + grep / git grep / silver searcher + CLI tools for automatic linting, test cases, etc., isn’t efficient for you, and motiva…
True int main() { if (a d) ; } You can switch between the less-than and greater-than sign using '%' key in vim. I bet no other ide can do that. Vim is the javascript of text editors.
i was initially confused, why would you want to jump or even convert between the '' signs? but from trying it out on that snippet, '%' actually jumps to the nearest bracket and selects(?) the matching one [0].
now, i'm not 100% sure on the exact behaviour, but e.g. even a cursory test in sublime shows it will highlight the start and end brackets if i'm inside the if-expression and you can "expand selection to brackets".
It’s hard for me to praise Jetbrains, every time I start using Idea I have amazing experience, I feel like it’s totally one of the best IDEs out there and then couple days and non-trivial plugins later I have noticeable lags when typing text . I immediately give up and switch back to my previous setup. Why can’t IDEs prioritize reducing typing latency? That’s like one of the most important parts of text editing. Anyb…
This finds JB editors to be good for typing latency, and mirrors my experience. I keep my number of plugins to a minimum, check if disabling your plugins improves the issue.
I am a big fan of Intellij. But the single most feature I hate about their products is keyboard shortcuts. If they follow standard unix shortcuts along with standard browser shortcuts, it will be more productive.
Give it two weeks. I agree the debugging F-keys are a bit strange, but a great thing is that you can do everything without touching the mouse once you know the keys. And for any shortcut you don't know, just use the Actions search.
I think it's a generally frugal market even if some of us are flush with a bit of cash. There's a lot you can get done for free with various FOSS stacks, and outside of highly specialized tools that aren't easy to replicate in features/availability/guarantees, I think it's a hard market to get a foot in, because the power of NIH is so strong. Things like IDEs, or security services, that take either a very slow burn o…
> It's possible they wouldn't be able to get off the ground today if they tried this whole thing again. I think that's unkind. The product they had when they started (IDEA) was so much better than the competition, that it felt like magic. Yes, they rode the Java wave, but there have been other waves since then (Ruby, Python...) and nobody really managed to replicate for those markets the same experience of productivi…
PyCharm’s success also has to do with the fact that they already had IntelliJ — both in terms of marketing and in terms of having lots of tech already in place.
I badly want to use intellij for Rust and other languages. But the issue I smash up against is that years of Vscode + my customizations has made using any other editor terribly clunky. I can spend hours customizing the controls and UI but I still feel like someone handed me the keys to some old car made in a country that doesn't exist anymore. This in part revealed to me the cost associated with all the editor custom…
are you really writing that much code where a 20% (actual, and I'm going to guess to you it's a 100% percieved) slow down is going to make you get fired? Or think of it another way, why are you only able to work in optimal environments, and is that the real benefit you provide? Are you going to get laid off if you aren't fully optimal? If you switched keyboard layouts would you lose this speed too? Can you afford to…
There's no need to be that aggressive, OP didn't say anything about getting fired or losing his job. What's optimal is subjective, and they seem to find comfort in what they do. Let's not get too used to tooting our own horn that we do it even on unrelated comment chains.
It’s hard for me to praise Jetbrains, every time I start using Idea I have amazing experience, I feel like it’s totally one of the best IDEs out there and then couple days and non-trivial plugins later I have noticeable lags when typing text . I immediately give up and switch back to my previous setup. Why can’t IDEs prioritize reducing typing latency? That’s like one of the most important parts of text editing. Anyb…
The only JetBrains IDE I've used is Rider, but AFAIK they are all based on IntelliJ - in 2-3 years of use, I don't recall ever experiencing lag when typing. I actually think it's one of the most performant and responsive IDEs I've ever used.
For reference, I primarily use it on Windows, with 64GB of RAM, but also use it on MacOS with 32GB of RAM and on another Windows machine with only 16GB of RAM.