They seem to have nice products but when people compare JetBrains tooling to Vim, Emacs and VSCode everyone seems to leave out the fact that those tools are 100% free. I think it’s important for coding to be open to as many people as possible and the tools are the point of entry.
JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
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#182JetBrains products are excellent, I have both personal and work subscriptions. I wish MPS would catch on, though; it’s really exciting technology that way too few people are using, for some reason.
What does MPS stand for?
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#183Shame they had to sell out with their bullshit subscription model
The "bullshit subscription model" in which you can keep using the version of software at time of purchase forever?
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#184Prague based company. Aha, yeap.
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#185They seem to have nice products but when people compare JetBrains tooling to Vim, Emacs and VSCode everyone seems to leave out the fact that those tools are 100% free. I think it’s important for coding to be open to as many people as possible and the tools are the point of entry.
JetBrains does have a free tier, fwiw. It’s quite powerful too (I say this as an avid vim user)
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#186Their company philosophy is "everybody codes", which results in much less management (and possibly more freedom for the employee :). They have an office in Munich.
Just looked that up. They have a 7 step application process and offer only 25 days of paid leave (30 days is basically the norm in Germany).
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know what OP uses but I use VS code and it's pretty good for a free editor.
OP is litereally ranting about people using text editors for tasks that IDEs excell at, and you are suggesting another text editor.
VSCode is way closer to IDE than text editor on that spectrum
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#188I want to like JetBrains and paid for an ultimate subscription for years, but this four-year-old bug renders their products pretty much unusable on macs with a 5k display: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/JBR-526 . Thus, I've canceled my subscription and moved to vscode for most development.
Really? I use IntelliJ on an external 4k display every day at work with a 2016 MBP. I seem to recall having some issues in early 2017 (when I started at $company), but nowadays it works fine. EDIT: I'm quite sure I have scaled resolution but can't check.
Is yours a 13" or a 15"? Mine is a 2015 13" mbp and the key latency and cpu churn on idle is unbearable.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. It's sluggish and very resource hungry. It runs on the JVM and it shows. I've switched to VS Code, also for Java coding.
But java isn’t slow and sluggishness is definitely not only due to GC pauses. It’s all about input handling subsystem.
The sluggineshness you describe should definitely be mainly GC pauses.
IDEA has done extra work on the "input handling subsystem" to the point where they are faster than most anything out there:
See: https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-la...
And: https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-la... (which is now standard)
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#190They also still give away their entire suite of products to students at no cost!
Several students tell me that it is only the full-version for free for a year, then it is subscription-based at a discount.
I have been using student version since September 2014 (when student plan was introduced) and I am still using it for free today (currently in PhD).