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I'm tired of Google's business products

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Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by warrenm »

dep_b wrote: post #167
warrenm wrote: post #93

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I never understand the hate Teams gets on HN - I use it more-or-less all day in both $WORK and $CUSTOMER environments ... rarely have more than a momentary hiccup in file sharing, screen sharing, group calls, chats, task tracking ...

Mac user here: - It forces the discrete GPU for no apparent reason - I cannot be in multiple teams, which is terrible to freelancers - It has no AppleScript support compared to the excellent support of all other office apps, nor System Events - Having connectivity issues with calls where Hangouts (or whatever it's called nowadays) just works fine

Never noticed the GPU issue (running an M1 MacBook Pro)

I'm in multiple Teams by being on $WORK on my laptop and in a VDI instance for $CUSTOMER

Honestly: never had a use for AppleScript ...haven't found anything I've wanted to automate on my Macs for the last decades

The calls issue is the only thing that's ever a hiccup ... and it's rare (and when it does hiccup, it's on my end (ie Zoom doesn't work either)

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by jupp0r »

datavirtue wrote: post #178
version_five wrote: post #98

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I think it's just a matter of opinion. I've used both O365 and GSuite extensively at different jobs, and after the initial switch, they are not too different, each has their annoyances, but I don't see a major change in productivity or quality of output between the two. In my business I like the option of sharing a .docx or .pptx and not having to ask a client to use google docs to view stuff. But when I had google d…

Spot on. GSuite is a temporary thing, a fad. Microsoft 365 will be around long after we are all dead.

Lots of horrible-to-use software is extremely successful commercially. This usually happens when users of the software are not the ones making purchase decisions (SAP) or if there are strong network effects (Windows).

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by jupp0r »

The-Bus wrote: post #134
jupp0r wrote: post #82

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Sorry, but as a user, Office 365 is a nightmare to use. Outlook on Mac can’t even do in-line email quotes. Sharing documents in your org is done via SharePoint(tm), the greatest nightmare on the planet. Don’t get me started on MS teams. Google products are much better from a UX perspective imho.

I think the comment was about enterprise/business support, not features.

Some businesses arguably care about their employees.

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Post by jermaustin1 »

rvba wrote: post #151
jermaustin1 wrote: post #55

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> Now, 10 years later they are holding my online persona hostage in a shameless cash grab to try and make Workspaces more profitable. I'm in the same boat, but since ~2006 when I started my first company (dont recall exactly when I set up my google apps account though). I have to chose whether to move my account (which thanks to sign in with google is attached to more places than I can even remember), or pony up $6/m…

Will all those people lose their email when something happens to you?

They shouldn't - I usually keep enough money in my corporate bank account that will keep the handful of expenses running for years.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by orangepurple »

thevagrant wrote: post #169
kingcharles wrote: post #113

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And that's a low barrier. The Dropbox client is totally flaky with me. I've never managed to get it to sync my files, because I have too many I guess? I just used rclone to get everything out of my Dropbox so I can close it.

I've synced terabytes with Dropbox no issue and know others doing the same. All others cloud sync products I've tested are much more flaky. Google drive was the worst and had many issues supporting others who decided they must use it. Not sure what your dropbox issue is but I'd check you have the latest client, check you have granted file folder permissions to the app if using macos. First sync takes a while but perf…

I hope you verify file existence and integrity using a third party tool instead of blindly trusting the syncer or eyeballing it.

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Post by saimiam »

halostatue wrote: post #159
saimiam wrote: post #125

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FWIW, this is literally exactly how my product PretzelBox ( https://pretzelbox.cc ) works. We are looking for beta users, if you care to take it for a spin.

A few issues: - The braced hamburger menu — your logo, actually, on your blog home page redirects to bulma.io. - There’s no way to switch from the "Very Cool" template back to the original.

Fixed! Thank you so much for pointing them out. Also added a couple of more templates to the menu.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by saimiam »

jorams wrote: post #171
saimiam wrote: post #124

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My baby, PretzelBox.cc, is no Google but it does give you an inbox for your domain and a half decent looking blog ( https://pretzelbox.cc/blog/ ) and a way to store and share files. /shameless_plug

The page you link doesn't exactly give a good impression. The logo in the top left links to bulma.io, The templates list links to one called "Very Cool", but there's no way to get back to the original template (except of course the back button). There's no link back to pretzelbox.cc. The landing page there is much better, but then one of the testimonials is for a service called Moogle. The only connection between Moo…

The /blog/ related issues you pointed are now fixed. Thank you!

You're right about Moogle. While I was working on building PretzelBox, I had launched just the blogging piece - i.e. post to your blog from Gmal - as a standalone service on Moogle.cc.

Appreciate you taking the time to give feedback.

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Post by kingcharles »

thevagrant wrote: post #169
kingcharles wrote: post #113

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And that's a low barrier. The Dropbox client is totally flaky with me. I've never managed to get it to sync my files, because I have too many I guess? I just used rclone to get everything out of my Dropbox so I can close it.

I've synced terabytes with Dropbox no issue and know others doing the same. All others cloud sync products I've tested are much more flaky. Google drive was the worst and had many issues supporting others who decided they must use it. Not sure what your dropbox issue is but I'd check you have the latest client, check you have granted file folder permissions to the app if using macos. First sync takes a while but perf…

Sadly I tried pretty much everything. It was the newest version, no previous versions installed. I had 2TB of data, but it was hundreds of thousands of small PDFs.

I've also used One Drive, GDrive, IDrive, Mega and some others. All of them have different issues. I guess I hate One Drive the least, but the barrier is low.

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Post by nextos »

tag2103 wrote: post #140
avipars wrote: post #104

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For whatever reason, if you post and it goes viral on twitter or reddit they tend to notice and comply....

Customer service through flaming pitchforks and torches really isn't a great business model but hey it is Google, what do they care?

Sadly it's been like this for very long.

I attended the third Google Summer of Code, and they paid me using an unnamed credit card. It was impossible to use the card anywhere, including using their very own Google Checkout!

All my transaction attempts were flagged as suspicious by Google. And I was performing very normal purchases from a regular country, both online and onsite.

Getting hold of someone that could help me was a nightmare, and I only managed to use my funds 20 hours before the card expired, and a year after GSoC had ended.

They have never had a customer service.

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