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Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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If your drive folder has more than 50,000 files and you try to download an archive ZIP of them, your files will disappear at random. The only way to avoid this outcome is to install a desktop client and sync the folder.

> The only way to avoid this outcome is to install a desktop client and sync the folder. Except the google desktop client is utterly flaky. They make Dropbox look good.

And that's a low barrier. The Dropbox client is totally flaky with me. I've never managed to get it to sync my files, because I have too many I guess? I just used rclone to get everything out of my Dropbox so I can close it.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Drive is incredible…ly terrible. Our non-technical staff (and some good technical people too) are always losing track of where files are. They write a doc then can’t find it later. The desktop tool (so you can use it like Dropbox) keeps getting confused and disconnecting on the Mac. I’m also part of a scout troop that uses google to organize its activities. In the troop’s Drive I’ve found doctor’s patient records, th…

If you can't find files, are you saying they're disappearing? I'm having a hard time understanding what the problem has to do with Drive specifically.

If people just forgot where they put something, it seems like you need to develop and practice some organization. I work with lots of clients and use Drive and organize things into folders named for each client, and then into separate categories based on what the file is. It's relatively easy to find things.

If I happen to forget, then I've found the search works well. I use the cloudsearch page at cloudsearch.google.com

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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"Google Services generated $69.4 billion, or about 92% of total revenue, in Q4 FY 2021. Advertising revenue, at $61.2 billion, comprised 88% of the segment's revenue."

Most of their money comes from Ads, they couldn't give two crap about all other services, including cloud. And that's why they keep launching and discontinuing products.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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I hate Google Workspace so much. Not because of the product, which seems fine. But because 10 years ago I signed up for google apps. It was marketed as a way to have a vanity gmail domain. Free forever up to 10 users. I thought it was cool, was a huge Google fan at the time, and created a custom domain for myself and another one for my grandparents. Now, 10 years later they are holding my online persona hostage in a…

I use Gmail with my own domain for free. My domain registrar (namecheap) allows forwarding of email for free. You can add extra email addresses in Gmail itself.

When you send or reply using Gmail, does the email appear to come from your gmail account or your domain?

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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I hate Google Workspace so much. Not because of the product, which seems fine. But because 10 years ago I signed up for google apps. It was marketed as a way to have a vanity gmail domain. Free forever up to 10 users. I thought it was cool, was a huge Google fan at the time, and created a custom domain for myself and another one for my grandparents. Now, 10 years later they are holding my online persona hostage in a…

> All I ever wanted was my own Gmail domain You don't need Workspace to use the Gmail UI with your custom domain. All you need is a regular free @gmail.com account. First switch your domain to an email hosting service that provides SMTP and IMAP, you probably get one free from your domain registrar. In Gmail settings for your @gmail account, add your custom domain as an alternate address for sending mail, using your…

This definitely works in a pinch but it's not quite the same. Things never work quite right, for example calendar invites, push notifications for email and Google Sign In. Also, most clients will expose your custom domain AND your gmail address when they receive the email. If you're using it as a semi-professional address, this is probably a deal breaker.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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My company (~30 people, healthcare field, engineering, software) uses Google. I have heard complaints about the ads, but I use the sheets on a daily basis, and we all use the drive to share and collaborate on most files. No complaints on that front.

I really like sheets because I learned how to use AppScript to automate a lot and I can't imagine working on anything without that functionality. Same goes for docs, slides and the rest of the suite.

We do have a guy who handles all the support and set-up though so I don't have the full perspective on this.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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For whatever reason, if you post and it goes viral on twitter or reddit they tend to notice and comply....

Be required to burn your 15 minutes of fame to get a reply from a company whose services you're paying for isn't worthwhile.

OP has just invented "Proof of Grief", a new way to mint crypto. Burn one to get an actual human being at Google to help you with a problem that they themselves caused for you.

The demand for this coin is basically unlimited.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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post #85

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> and there are plenty of products that are just as good. Other than MS Office, what's a good suite providing all of shared docs, spreadsheets, email, and a cloud drive?

If you're in the Apple ecosystem, file sharing through iCloud and the Apple quite of apps is pretty good (not quite as good as O365, but worlds better than Google Docs)

I have to disagree here. iCloud file sharing is atrociously bad. I share a fairly minimal amount of files with another apple account and there's constant sync issues, it's not anywhere near realtime or even "soon". Shared files and folders routinely never show up in iCloud drive even when they appear on the web interface. Restarts seem to be required to fix problems as they arise.
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