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Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Post by skinnymuch »

oblio wrote: post #123
oliwarner wrote: post #108

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I'm not saying cinema's dead, rather that headlines of "RECORD BOX OFFICE RETURN" that drive the genre of comment I was replying to are bullshit.

They're not. Inflation adjusted, Endgame's about to beat Avatar. Only Gone with the Wind is ahead. There's tons more money out there now.

Where did you get your numbers from? Endgame won’t beat Avatar at all without inflation worldwide. In the US it doesn’t beat Avatar with inflation adjusted. Then you have Titanic that just completely destroys Endgame after inflation in the US. Probably worldwide too. Though that’s harder to say and there wasn’t really China back then. Along with China being much smaller for Avatar too.

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Post by skinnymuch »

oblio wrote: post #159
oliwarner wrote: post #127

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Those aren't the numbers I see [1]. For domestic US, Endgame is in 18th place. Why not worldwide? Even the US numbers are rickety. There are multiple ways to account for inflation, multiple ways of record counting for sales, trying to factor in re-showings, etc. Adding on multiple currencies and economies is a power of extra complexity. > There's tons more money out there now Yes. Money. My whole thing here has been…

The US economy hasn't grown much, adjusted for inflation, compared to the world economy. That's primarily because of the rest of the world was much poorer. And your numbers are not accurate, I think. Inflation from 1950 to the present day has been 900% if this site is to be believed: http://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1950?amount=100 So the 50 cent cinema ticket from back then would be 5 dollars now and instea…

The original statement of Endgame beating Avatar is still incorrect. Which is what started this chain of comments in the first place. Along with Endgame not even beating Avatar worldwide without inflation (currency exchange rates aren’t going to be that drastic with a decade population and financial growth).

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Post by skinnymuch »

paganel wrote: post #158
navigatesol wrote: post #140

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> There are some gems here and there (the last two Peele movies) but they are getting really far and few between. What do you consider "Hollywood"? Get Out and Us were both independent movies, were they not? Hollywood has always been Hollywood.

I thought that Get Out and Us had at least some Hollywood funding, looks like I was wrong. For example “Cape Fear” and “The Fugitive” made in the early ‘90s were pure Hollywood movies that were interesting for grown-ups, too, I fail to see something like that filmed nowadays (both of them were remakes, too, proof that you can film a remake and still produce an interesting movie after all). I also miss smart action-or…

Get Out and US are financed independently?

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Post by s09dfhks »

bscphil wrote: post #64
Larrikin wrote: post #63

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Being able to setup a legal program like Plex and knowing how to pirate high quality versions of all the media you want are two different things. People bought into Hulu and Netflix when you could get nearly everything you wanted to watch on their services.

Plex is legal to use, but not all that easy to set up, at least in my experience. At least, I would expect anyone capable of using Plex longterm on a TV to also be able to pirate stuff. The point about legality wasn't about Plex, however. It was about paying someone to torrent stuff for you, which is still copyright infringement.

Pretty simple to set up. Just install the software, navigate to the webpage, and tell it what directories to look in for your media

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Post by ShinTakuya »

romanovcode wrote: post #107
esoterica wrote: post #90

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Are you implying that Disney movies (lol Star Wars 2929384) are less recycled than other studios' movies?

Also the garbage comic book BS they put up every 6 months. Noooo not recycled garbage at all. /s

Every 6 months? It feels like every 2 or 3 months to me.

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Post by mlthoughts2018 »

philliphaydon wrote: post #93
mlthoughts2018 wrote: post #34

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HBO seems to still be producing very good dramas. Prime has had one or two offbeat gems recently. I think there’s still a strong market for it, but Netflix is clearly pursuing something else.

What's good on HBO? I used a VPN to subscribe to HBO and Hulu and ended up canceling it because I ended up watching more Netflix than those services...

Off the top of my head: Succession, VEEP, Barry, Big Little Lies, Sharp Objects, True Detective (seasons 1 & 3), Chernobyl.

Big Little Lies was probably the worst of that bunch, and is still lightyears ahead of any recent Netflix drama.

On Prime, The Man in the High Castle is a guilty pleasure despite its flaws. The bizarre spy drama Patriot is absolutely excellent.

I like that with Prime, I can subscribe to HBO within the app, and also buy seasons of some cable shows, like FX’s Legion, Fargo, What We Do in the Shadows.

I prefer that experience much more than Netflix. With Netflix, the original content has to be so good that it offsets the lack of being able to purchase non-Netflix content, and frankly Netflix originals have just not been good enough to cut it for a while.

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Post by selebrazin »

chx wrote: post #170
netwanderer3 wrote: post #163

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You reminded me of "the scene" back in the old days where movie groups like Centropy and many others were releasing latest films on FTP servers which were typically running on 100Mbps dedicated connections, gigabit lines were quite rare back then and mostly reserved for the most elite groups like FLT (PC Games). Releases were usually "pre'd" on affiliated topsites before getting spread to other lower tier sites via F…

You tell me... I was helping one of the admins of one of the largest second tier FTP sites in Central Europe because his English was not so great... so yeah, I remember this scene too quite well.

If you have time and are so inclined, would you mind sharing more of your experiences running that site? I may not be the only one interested in a little behind-the-scenes peak at how such an interesting part of internet history.

Re: Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Post by mikepurvis »

raxxorrax wrote: post #109
mikepurvis wrote: post #21

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Well, and for those of us who had the GOG and/or Uplay launchers anyway, or already had our achievements fractured between PC and one or more console ecosystems, having to install the Epic Games one just wasn't that big a deal. Especially with the bait of free games, exclusives, and the crazy $10 off summer sale promotion. I got it for the Hades early access and to play Transistor and Rime for free.

Does it finally allow for offline execution of games? Epic just had some good deals for market dominance. Makes sense, since they now have the capital. There are some interesting exclusives, but I resisted in creating an account because I would regret it later. There might be better deals for developers in there, but that will undoubtedly change if the goal of market dominance is reached. It is an overall really bad…

You can play offline; it's been possible since February: https://epicgames.com/store/en-US/news/launcher-offline-mode
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