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People aren't making more children because they largely can't afford to, either in actual resources, or in time spent. And, unlike in a rural community, children don't have any "return on investment" - plus, you generally have to raise them alone even when they're no longer toddlers, rather than relying on an entire community to do it together. There's no great mystery, and a colony on Mars will not change this even…

> because they largely can't afford to, either in actual resources, or in time spent But that's absolutely not true. People are so wealthy right now that they can afford practically an unlimited amount of children. The avoidance of having children is almost entirely shaped by the cultural environment and not economic environment. > relying on an entire community to do it together I am not sure that it ever was a case…

> The avoidance of having children is almost entirely shaped by the cultural environment and not economic environment.

Cultural factors are certainly a part of it, but probably mostly in the sense that we are (rightfully, I believe) far less willing to let children die young or get maimed. But economic factors are a huge thing; I don't know where you live that you thing young people "can afford practically an unlimited number of children", but in most of Europe and the USA it is in fact impossible for the bottom 50+% of young couples to even support themselves, not to mention a child, on a single income. And it's also very hard to raise a child 0-4 in a city while working full time+.

> "Relying on an entire community" to raise children generally meant that children were raised mostly by themselves.

No. Children, historically, after they became capable of roaming around, were raised by grandparents, neighbors, their older siblings etc. Even when they were away from adults, they'd be roaming near the village in groups with older children.

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

#172

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We still have a good few thousand years until we make the Earth anywhere close to as inhospitable as the second best planet in the Solar System - and probably much more than that before we run out of space on Earth. It makes far more sense to colonize the Arctic, the Gobi desert, the peaks of the tallest mountains, and similar places here on Earth before even contemplating the colonization of Mars. Let's first have a…

The issue there is we aren’t the only force for possible extinction on Earth.

Apart from a gamma-ray burst, what do you imagine could happen to the Earth to make it as inhospitable as Mars?

Asteroid hits wouldn't come even close. The worse disease imaginable would not make the air as permanently dangerous to life as Mars' atmosphere is. So what exactly would motivate this move?

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Many Americans are in the middle of the death throes of empire the world is moving on and as an American. That’s fine with me Lake Ontario forever ha.ha.ha…

As an American, would say more than half our country actually agrees with you. Trumps approval rating has fallen to 39% while 58% disapprove. Yeah, a lot of us in the US are in just as much amazement as the rest of the world at the crazy and petty actions he takes. So we’re just bidding our time, waiting until the midterm elections to weaken the right, and then afterwards, we’ll just be counting the days until he’s o…

> Trumps approval rating has fallen to 39% while 58% disapprove.

> Hopefully he’ll be replaced with someone who is at least halfway competent

That's the point. You've vote for this guy TWICE. So probably when we talk about 58% disapprove, those 58% disapprove him not because of what he's doing, but because he's doing it to little and to incompetently.

It is scary that you want to replace him with another Trump, but "at least halfway competent". Oh boy!

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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As an American, would say more than half our country actually agrees with you. Trumps approval rating has fallen to 39% while 58% disapprove. Yeah, a lot of us in the US are in just as much amazement as the rest of the world at the crazy and petty actions he takes. So we’re just bidding our time, waiting until the midterm elections to weaken the right, and then afterwards, we’ll just be counting the days until he’s o…

And i as an average European just want to say - we feel with you and all the others that are suffering through this. I don't know either what I could or would do if my own government went this route. I hope your institutions and the people's resilience will overcome this dark chapter of American history and build a better foundation on top.

>I hope your institutions and the people's resilience will overcome this dark chapter of American history and build a better foundation on top.

I hope we can scrape it all back to the bedrock foundations of our country before we rebuild anything. I don't want any foundation built on top of this festering layer of bullshit. I'm afraid we will still have foundation problems in the future if we don't examine the reasons why it failed this time and set the rebuilt country up with one less failure mode.

Let's do this once. As they say where I'm from "There's only two ways to do anything - do it right or do it over."

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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> because they largely can't afford to, either in actual resources, or in time spent But that's absolutely not true. People are so wealthy right now that they can afford practically an unlimited amount of children. The avoidance of having children is almost entirely shaped by the cultural environment and not economic environment. > relying on an entire community to do it together I am not sure that it ever was a case…

> The avoidance of having children is almost entirely shaped by the cultural environment and not economic environment. Cultural factors are certainly a part of it, but probably mostly in the sense that we are (rightfully, I believe) far less willing to let children die young or get maimed. But economic factors are a huge thing; I don't know where you live that you thing young people "can afford practically an unlimit…

> we are (rightfully, I believe) far less willing to let children die young or get maimed.

I don't think it matters at all. Of course, we are, but there is a huge gap between "not let children die young or get maimed" and what is happening with child raising now.

> but in most of Europe and the USA

bottom 50+% of young couples would have zero problems to support even 20 children per couple. How do I know it? Because in other parts of the world other people easily support like 5+ kids on 10+ times less amount of resources than this bottom 50% of young couples in the Europe and the USA have. So it is purely cultural phenomenon.

> were raised by grandparents, neighbors, their older siblings etc.

No, they (generally) weren't raised that way. Historically, "raised by grandparents, neighbors, their older siblings etc" mean that they were like 5% of the time "raising by grandparents, neighbors, their older siblings", and other 95% of the time raising by themselves (and maybe by neighbor's dog, best case scenario)

> Even when they were away from adults, they'd be roaming near the village in groups with older children.

I mean right now there is zero problems to raise 20 children per couple this way in the cities. Except for the cultural perception.

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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French Guyana is occupied territory. That's pretty clear. And so it should be deoccupied and the locals will decide whether to use their land as "sovereign' launch port by Europeans.

Should Europe also be controlled only by its indigenous population then? (Don't actually answer that I don't want to start a big off topic discussion, just saying if we want to be logically consistent...)

Isn't Europe controlled by indigenous population already?

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

#180

I really like seeing new aerospace companies, and i really hope humans go interstellar by 2050

this seems a bit ambitious, considering that Voyager just left the solar system

a permanent self sufficient colony on antarctica is a bit more like it, but still pretty ambitious

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