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US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by xbar »

gdulli wrote: post #134
lesuorac wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking about the same guy that sent a second slate of electors for the 2020 election. The same guy that told the government of Georgia to add 10,000 votes to his total so he'd win. The same guy that received 0 punishment for either action. Why wouldn't he try something for the mid-terms?

Well he and his people are far too stupid and incompetent to have come close to succeeding. While it's not great that there was no punishment, we should at least be thankful that they act on emotion and can only loosely follow playbooks for corruption from the past rather than write new ones for modern times.

I am surprised to see that this kind of complacency remains.

The corruption competence of this body of actors is as impressive as it is horrific.

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Post by margalabargala »

financetechbro wrote: post #117
margalabargala wrote: post #88

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It's currently historically accurate. It's aged 250 years so far. Civil war? Elections. WWII? Elections. Covid? Elections.

Wake up. Things are different this time in case you haven’t noticed

Yes, of course they are different. We're not embroiled in an active Civil War with tens of thousands dead and a third of the country having seceded. Most things are different from that.

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Post by Ancapistani »

marcosdumay wrote: post #148
moi2388 wrote: post #136

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I think you underestimate how much Iranians hate their current regime..

They hate it a lot less today than they did 2 weeks ago.

Interesting you should say that, as not a single one of the Iranian emigrants that I know would agree with you.

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Post by philipkglass »

ultratalk wrote: post #93
OutOfHere wrote: post #48

Trump has given a surprise gift to renewable energy worldwide, one that the sector should not fail to use.

A lot of the world tried to shift to renewables during the ~10-year-long 1970s embargo. They went straight back to sweet old oil afterwards. This isn't gonna last nearly as long. Don't get me wrong, I hope and pray that renewables get a boost out of this, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

In the 1970s electric cars were not generally available and solar panels were 100 times more expensive than they are now. Today the world has the manufacturing capacity to install nearly a terawatt-peak of solar panels per year, at low cost, and millions of electric cars are shipping every quarter:

https://open-ev-charts.org/#global:electric-sales:quarter

It won't change rapidly in the US, because the current administration opposes renewables at every turn and keeps low cost BEVs out of the US, but most of the world's energy/oil needs are outside the US. This situation will accelerate a global process that was already gaining speed.

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Post by margalabargala »

miltonlost wrote: post #132
margalabargala wrote: post #83

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The US held elections during the Civil War. There is no crisis that would create a situation where elections "cannot be held". That is to say, if the current admin attempts to suspend elections, the legality of that and the magnitude of the reaction will be the same, crisis or no.

Account created Jan 6 2020. Now downplaying the current admin attempts.... hmmm.....

Please explain how saying "there is no crisis which could justify suspending elections" downplays anything the current admin is doing.

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Post by wheelerwj »

spwa4 wrote: post #114
lesuorac wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're talking about the same guy that sent a second slate of electors for the 2020 election. The same guy that told the government of Georgia to add 10,000 votes to his total so he'd win. The same guy that received 0 punishment for either action. Why wouldn't he try something for the mid-terms?

Let's hope next year we laugh about this with the question with "And why did he have any expectation it was going to work?".

No man, thats not going to fly. No one ever got anything done by just hoping. Get started now.

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Post by p4coder »

VK-pro wrote: post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

The nation is one terrorist attack away from rallying behind the president. And sadly the chances of that happening have gone up significantly in recent days.

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Post by hurricanepootis »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #102
epistasis wrote: post #60

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The Biden administration was actually extremely competent, handled global inflation after the pandemic and Russia's war fairly well relative to peer nations, and set US manufacturing on course to provide us with all the batteries, solar panels, and EVs to prevent oil crunches like this from causing future inflation. I expect more competency from US Presidential administrations, and also expect more competency and ind…

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The current situation we're facing can be traced back to, in some parts, Trump pulling out of JCPOA and Biden's tepid resistance to Israel's war in Palestine, leading to this situation.

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Post by muddi900 »

epistasis wrote: post #122
1234letshaveatw wrote: post #102

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Huh? That's a pretty far out there statement that needs substantial support to be taken seriousl. By all accounts Israeli leadership also tried to rope Biden and Obama into attacking Iran, but they were stronger presidents that paid more attention to US interests rather than being easily tricked.

US pulling out of the JCPOA was the biggest travesty of the 21st century. No nation state will ever feel safe without a nuke now.

But Israel wanted to destroy Iran as competition. And they got it.

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