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US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Why did we have to go through all this pain. Was that really necessary? And given we mostly talk about technology here, let me put this through that lens: With all the technology advancement and improvement with access to information in the last 30 years, why does it feel that all of this culminates to more disinformation, more pain, and less understanding?

It's because technology doesn't change the fundamentals of global geopolitics. Which is that nearly all of history can be explained as a struggle to control basic resources such as arable land, oil, minerals, etc. Everything you're seeing today is because those resources are becoming either increasingly scarce, or increasingly valuable.

> increasingly scarce, or increasingly valuable.

Neither of which is actually true for oil. We're still finding oil reserves faster than we deplete them, major users such as China are rapidly decarbonizing, and the price was relatively low before the war.

But the people in power thought it was true, which is all that matters.

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These people live on manufacturing crisis after crisis in order to exploit the manic status that they generate. Why worry about how the midterms, if you can create a situation where elections cannot be held at all...? Yes, it sounds crazy right now, but a lot of things sounded similarly crazy 10 years ago, and here we are.

There is no crisis in the US that results in canceled elections

Agreed. The United States had an election in 1864, while the states were literally at war with each other.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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There is no crisis in the US that results in canceled elections

We're talking about the same guy that sent a second slate of electors for the 2020 election. The same guy that told the government of Georgia to add 10,000 votes to his total so he'd win. The same guy that received 0 punishment for either action. Why wouldn't he try something for the mid-terms?

Of course Trump will try something outrageous that would result in prison time for any other person. But I think that the states are also still independent, mostly ruled by law rather than man, and there's limited troop power to interfere.

Trump is not all powerful, unless everybody gives up their power. Not everybody is as weak as the SV elite, and the failures of Big Law and others that bent the knee were very instructive to everybody else. Bowing down to the king makes you his servant, but it does not protect you in any way.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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post #38

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There is no crisis in the US that results in canceled elections

We're talking about the same guy that sent a second slate of electors for the 2020 election. The same guy that told the government of Georgia to add 10,000 votes to his total so he'd win. The same guy that received 0 punishment for either action. Why wouldn't he try something for the mid-terms?

Let's hope next year we laugh about this with the question with "And why did he have any expectation it was going to work?".

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> They also secured oil imports from Venezuela while at the same time in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. This 'Venezuelan oil' is a pipe dream for the moment. It will take a significant amount of years to get anywhere near completed.

really? where are their oil exports going now?

They aren't pumping that much oil since Chavez, the expertise for extracting oil was lost during nationalisation. It needs a lot of work to restart extraction, it will take years.

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Depends, I just want to point out that the US is a net exporter of Oil. They also secured oil imports from Venezuela while at the same time in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. If the goal was to hurt China / BRICS and kneecap Iran it seems on point. It's always hard to predict how the USA will vote when "war" is happening.

> in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. USA, Europe, and many other countries depend on China for manufacturing. I doubt that this is going to solve inflation. But it will fill the pockets of a few people in oil rich countries that can still export.

Inflation is currently at 2.4%. How much lower do you want it to go?

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I’m keeping a link to this comment to see how well it ages

It's currently historically accurate. It's aged 250 years so far. Civil war? Elections. WWII? Elections. Covid? Elections.

Wake up. Things are different this time in case you haven’t noticed

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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He may still wriggle out of it but it is increasingly looking like Trump has stepped into something that he won't be able to reverse his way out of easily, a one way decision.

The stepping was done years ago when Epstein got kompromat on him. That's why he ordered this war for no apparent reason. His life is over if he doesn't, his life lasts a few more years if the blackmail is withheld, at the cost of innocent lives.
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