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That's why it's pointed out in the CoC - to make people aware that not all people feel included by "guys". I know quite a few that don't.
They may not feel included, but it's proper English to use guys as an ungendered reference to a group. It's been in the dictionary a very long time.
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#172After reading the "code of conduct" on their homepage I would assume that you have unknowligly broken something like > "Using gendered terms like “dude” or “guys” to address a mixed-gendered group of people contributes to furthering exclusion of underrepresented individuals." The fact that they included an option to "make an anonymous" report furthers the assumption that you just got under the political wheels of the…
I'm fairly certain I saw "guys" used to address even women-only groups in American movies and TV. Conference that wants to be internationally inclusive, which I assume a conference in English held in Germany wants to be, should not ostracize people based on grammar technicalities. That's just one word, but pronouns in particular differ greatly across languages. Objects can have genders, occupations can have genders,…
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They may not feel included, but it's proper English to use guys as an ungendered reference to a group. It's been in the dictionary a very long time.
It’s also correct to use a male gendered pronoun in German to refer to a group of mixed gender, even though other options exist. But why do you insist on using a term of which a substantial group of people says that it makes them feel excluded once you’ve been made aware of that fact. What does it cost you to avoid that term? Stomping you right feet and yelling that “But it’s correct! The dictionary says so!” just ma…
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Except he got a reply. Someone read his message and took time out of their day to tell him to fuck off.
But just after he sent a message to several people and probably on twitter and different means, they told him - in a rude way - to stop. He probably didn't stop and he was blocked.
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Then simply telling him that would have been just as easy as the response they sent, and no ruder.
They probably have dozens of times.
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It’s also correct to use a male gendered pronoun in German to refer to a group of mixed gender, even though other options exist. But why do you insist on using a term of which a substantial group of people says that it makes them feel excluded once you’ve been made aware of that fact. What does it cost you to avoid that term? Stomping you right feet and yelling that “But it’s correct! The dictionary says so!” just ma…
Spend any amount of time with an ESOL person and you’ll understand why. This is only an issue in primary english speaking countries. English is a complicated language to learn because of all these “rules” primary speakers make up that aren’t actually defined in the language. Also at what point is there a line? should we remove all words that a group of people find offensive? should the people finding the words offens…
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Wow... Is there a way to live and work in tech without having to put up with all this shit ever again ? Why are those politics taking over everything.
There's not escape, every nook and cranny is getting more political these days. Not sure why, I blame total ideologies that prescribe the personal being political.
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I also spoke in 2013.
For the record, I think that what happened to you over a years-old, minor donation - regardless of what it supported - was ridiculous. Whenever someone suggests that I move to the Valley because I am in the tech industry, I bring up your story as an example of why I want nothing to do with most of the people that live there.
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The reason we respect HN and its respective admins, is because they explain their decisions quite openly and transparently, and will even discuss issues over email. I was actually banned a few years ago because I was being a negative, hateful, POS due to some events in my life combined with clouded judgment. But I appealed, and began posting better comments that were more in line with what one would expect from a dis…
> The reason we respect HN and its respective admins, is because they explain their decisions quite openly and transparently ...Except when they shadowban people. (Who aren't obviously spammers or dedicated trolls.)
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason we respect HN and its respective admins, is because they explain their decisions quite openly and transparently, and will even discuss issues over email. I was actually banned a few years ago because I was being a negative, hateful, POS due to some events in my life combined with clouded judgment. But I appealed, and began posting better comments that were more in line with what one would expect from a dis…
> The reason we respect HN and its respective admins, is because they explain their decisions quite openly and transparently ...Except when they shadowban people. (Who aren't obviously spammers or dedicated trolls.)