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Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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At some point you offended the wrong person, they added you to one of those shared blocklists, and that's all, you're banned forever. Who's to blame? I'd say you, for caring. This is the way politics works now, and some software projects have, for some reason, joined the politics battle. By caring you're giving them weight. Just flip them off, tell them to go fuck themselves, and keep thinking the way you do. It's no…

"Who's to blame? I'd say you, for caring." This is logically inconsistent and snarky. The ban came before the reaction to it. In addition, publicizing an egregious sleight because it pissed you off, does not make you "lose" because you cared. If you smash your phone, if you crash your car, if you get angry, sure..then you sort of lose because the reaction didn't measure up to the reason for it. But here...JS Conf org…

It sounds like you dont understand the intent of the post you are responding to or that i am not understanding your irony?

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

#92
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Perhaps all his 30 speech proposals were completely inane and he's been viewed by organizers as that spammy fellow in late stages Dunning–Kruger syndrome? If that's the case, then muting communications is the least offensive option and it is entirely appropriate. However it does require the other side to be able to take a hint.

Perhaps - then tell him . The reason does not matter (especially since we are unlikely to hear it from anyone), what matters is that they refuse to say what it is. "Effort" is not an excuse either since they even replied to him - but with something unprofessional while still leaving out the reason for no good reason that I can think of. You can even mask it behind a more fuzzy reason if you think the specific reason…

Disagree.

A while ago I experimented with giving job applicants honest feedback on why they were unsuccessful - not just the old platitudes like"there were stronger candidates".

Big mistake. When you reject people, they really really want to dig in, know why and then refute or try to overturn that.

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

#93

Slightly off topic: I've always found twitter-style blocking totally nonsensical. I mean: you've got a public account. Blocking should prevent people from replying or tweeting at you, and from sending you DMs, maybe even retweeting what you said (even though I'm not sure about the usefulness of this last thing)... but why should ANYONE be prevented at just READING PUBLIC CONTENT when LOGGED IN? (I think the same appl…

it raises the friction for people quoting your tweets and encouraging their followers to harass you.

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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post #35

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They probably have personal data / personal identifiable information about you when they blocked you and still know about it ... And you can ask them what data they have about you.

You think they are keeping a permanent database of twitter block reasons?

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Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

#95

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"Who's to blame? I'd say you, for caring." This is logically inconsistent and snarky. The ban came before the reaction to it. In addition, publicizing an egregious sleight because it pissed you off, does not make you "lose" because you cared. If you smash your phone, if you crash your car, if you get angry, sure..then you sort of lose because the reaction didn't measure up to the reason for it. But here...JS Conf org…

It sounds like you dont understand the intent of the post you are responding to or that i am not understanding your irony?

I understand but "Vigilance is noble. Caring enough to cause a stink, even though you know it isn't worth anyones' time, especially your time."

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

#96
post #2

Sounds like a conference run by incompetent people, which is usually the vibe I get from glorified "javascript users". Definitely not a conference I'd ever attend. A conference for technology is usually supposed to be a social gathering for people with a shared interest, not a formal conference like a business gathering. The only thing I can't think of is that you submitted a lot of proposals and they perhaps thought…

It could be the number of proposals. I haven't seen his Twitter, but if he mentioned being a member of the "Brendan Eich fan club" on Twitter as he did on his blog, that may have also led to his being blocked. Brendan Eich was forced out of his role as CEO of Mozilla after a few vocal employees there found out he had donated $1,000 to support an anti-gay marriage bill in California many years before he was CEO. If th…

Didn't that happen several years after 2011, though?

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

#97
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What you say is true if it was a private person. This is about a conference that seems to be important professionally to that person. They even replied to him - why not just say WHY and get it over with once and for all? This is just stupid, not (just) unprofessional. If they could at least point to "we already told you, now get lost" - but never giving a reason... it's not like they could be sued (first, Europe, sec…

Perhaps all his 30 speech proposals were completely inane and he's been viewed by organizers as that spammy fellow in late stages Dunning–Kruger syndrome? If that's the case, then muting communications is the least offensive option and it is entirely appropriate. However it does require the other side to be able to take a hint.

Then simply telling him that would have been just as easy as the response they sent, and no ruder.

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

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I think this is not a private or personal thing, this just unprofessional handling of an yet unclear situation. Like beeing conficted without a trial (of course this is just a business relationship between him and the conference). Imagine that Hacker News would ban your account jakobegger, no explanation, no way to get informations why or what you did wrong. Would you just accept this as just "leave me alone"?

The reason we respect HN and its respective admins, is because they explain their decisions quite openly and transparently, and will even discuss issues over email. I was actually banned a few years ago because I was being a negative, hateful, POS due to some events in my life combined with clouded judgment. But I appealed, and began posting better comments that were more in line with what one would expect from a dis…

> The reason we respect HN and its respective admins, is because they explain their decisions quite openly and transparently

...Except when they shadowban people. (Who aren't obviously spammers or dedicated trolls.)

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

#99

What kind of people tell paying customers they are not worth the time required to answer a question?

I deliberately chose not to work in the "enterprise" market with 6-digit contracts anymore and instead sell a consumer product to many more people so that I could fire any customer that annoyed me without thinking twice about it. They get their money back and can find someone else to annoy. I really don't see what's so outrageous about the practice. There is no moral law that being paid by someone somehow creates a h…

I didn't modify my comment are you confused?

Re: Blocked by JSConf.eu Twitter account

#100

This is the same when people message a youtuber and expect some reply - they can't see the hundreds and thousands of messages people get and still need to produce youtube content (or organize a conference) - "I can deal with the mails I get, why can't they?"

Except he got a reply. Someone read his message and took time out of their day to tell him to fuck off.
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