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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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post #64

Any suggestions for alternatives to Microsoft Academic? Google Scholar is ok, Researchgate sucks, and I'm wondering about any other such services which I might not be aware about.

Agreed, Microsoft Academic was a super useful tool, and I haven't seen anything as good.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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post #127

So many discontinued Microsoft products not listed: Xenix, Microsoft OS/2, Multiplan, Microsoft COBOL, Microsoft Fortran/PowerStation, Microsoft Pascal/QuickPascal, the classic Microsoft Basic line (BASIC/BASICA/GW-BASIC/QuickBASIC/QBASIC/PDS/VBDOS), MS-DOS, MSX-DOS, Microsoft Adventure, Microsoft Decathlon, Z-80 SoftCard, Microsoft Delta (the version control system), Windows NT OS/2 subsystem, Presentation Manager f…

How many of these would there even be a market for? Some of these are games from the 70's and 80's.

Even so, if they included the dubious "Iloo," there should be at least be room for the once fairly popular Microsoft Money on that list.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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I like seeing the list of services, but I wish it was called "Microsoft Graveyard" instead of "Killed by Microsoft". Some of those wouldn't be around today regardless of the controlling organization, such as Silverlight and Encarta. To me, "Killed by Microsoft" makes it sound like Microsoft chose to discontinue a product that otherwise would still be "alive" today.

Yeah, there should be a KilledByApple website that includes Zune.

Your point is well taken. Apple got a few good blows back at Microsoft.

When I first saw the title "Killed by Microsoft" I thought it was a list of products from other companies that Microsoft killed - not products from Microsoft that Microsoft ended.

"Microsoft Graveyard" is a better name given Microsoft's history of killing other companies and their products. Or make the list really products that Microsoft killed. That would be a much longer list.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

>Kinect => It's not dead ???

Is it alive? It very much has an immensely passionate community of students and hobbyists using it in ways well past its intended use (e.g. it's some of the cheapest mocap hardware you can buy). But I don't think you've been able to officially purchase one for 4+ years now. Hard to call that "alive" in a business sense.

Honestly a real shame that Xbox hasn't pivoted it into some other team that can market it towards creators. In particular the whole "VTuber" phenomenon may benefit form a cheap(ish), dedicated motion tracking device instead of relying on a high end iPhone or fanagling with some generic webcam.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this (or these) list(s) are aiming to shame MS (or Google) for shutting down products, only to catalog and preserve the history.

The Google list is absolutely aiming to shame Google. They break promises they made even just a few months earlier (Stadia is a recent example). Microsoft is a polar opposite: they kill unpopular things, monetize popular things, and provide ridiculously long support (and backwards compatibility).

What promise did Google break with Stadia?

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Missing: Microsoft Bookshelf [1]. Encarta was a somewhat similar product, but the reference sources in Bookshelf were arguably better. For example, Bookshelf contained the unabridged American Heritage Dictionary, while Encarta used (I think) a Webster's dictionary [2]. I still use Bookshelf 1996 on most days of the week. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bookshelf [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encarta_W…

What line of work are you in where you’re using this tool regularly? Curious to know

I'm a professor. I write a lot, and I use Bookshelf 1996 mainly for the third edition of the American Heritage Dictionary, which is great. The interface is better than the interface for the iOS app.

You can get the 4th edition for free at https://ahdictionary.com, and it's good. I'm just old-fashioned enough to dislike some of the changes that they made between the third and fourth editions.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

Chat/teams itself yeah, compared to slack; and it's mostly/only UI related. Video and audio is leagues above however, and recordings integrated with Stream works like a charm. It's unbelievable how shitty audio and video is in slack however. If microsoft got its UI/UX game, it's easier to get that right than the other way around.

Have you tried other tools? Discord, zoom, webex have way better audio and video quality and include video sharing. FaceTime has superb audio and video but no screen sharing.
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