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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by julianlam »

paskozdilar wrote: post #38

I was gifted a Nokia Lumia 640 when it just came out. It was a nice phone, it had good hardware, it was fast and worked smoothly. It had all the applications I needed and honestly thought that it was gonna take over Android, given Nokia's reputation and popularity of Windows. Then Microsoft forced a Windows 10 update on it, and everything slowed down to a halt. Camera application was running at ~5fps max. Application…

> If they had made it an open platform and allowed users to install Linux, I believe it would have taken over the world.

Didn't they, though? With Maemo and later Meego (though maybe I have that swapped)?

As it turns out the developer power just isn't there.

That's not to say that that wouldn't be the case now, but at least back then, it wasn't able to survive.

I was so incredibly excited for my Nokia N900, but at the end of the day it was not a phone running Linux, but a buggy OS with a buggy phone app.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by CameronNemo »

esel2k wrote: post #32

Is it really that bad? I believe if there is no alternative and a need then there will be a software at some point. I guess it is pure economics and I personally miss none of these.

I don't think this (or these) list(s) are aiming to shame MS (or Google) for shutting down products, only to catalog and preserve the history.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by jchw »

rvba wrote: post #22
Mindless2112 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't even fair to say that some of these products are dead. For example, you can still use Microsoft Streets & Trips today, as it's from an era when you bought (rather than rented) software. It's just not getting any more updates, so its usefulness diminishes as the road network changes.

Microaoft Edge continues too, it just switched technology

EdgeHTML really is dead, however, and that has significance considering it was an independent browser engine (also, one that applications could embed)

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by lstamour »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8

Good list - but I don’t think Windows 10 IoT Core is dead. It’s been renamed to just Windows IoT Core, but otherwise it is still quite available.

I had to object to a few of these too. If you need an Office viewer, you can just download the office apps - unlicensed, e.g. on an iPad, you can read office files just fine.

Microsoft Edge is better than ever. They killed the last vestiges of Trident, and good riddance. And… they didn’t even kill that if you consider IE mode will survive for at least another decade, and no announcements have been made about the underlying code in Windows which will probably survive as long as COM and Win32.

Also, Microsoft Reader originally was for ebooks, it was released initially in Aug 2000. I remember it being one of the few ebook reader apps before Kindle was more commonly available.

And Microsoft Expression was created from existing software: Frontpage, Visual Studio, Creature House and iView Media all contributed to the original products. They were discontinued after a deal with Adobe to sell apps on the Microsoft Store, if I recall correctly. It wouldn’t surprise me if Microsoft asked Adobe to not make cross-platform app-building tools (e.g. Flash RIA and Flex - last released in 2012 at about the same time) in exchange for Microsoft not making creative tools. Both were feeling threatened by the other.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by ntkachov »

mattkevan wrote: post #40

I didn’t think Microsoft killed things. Maybe they’ve changed, but their strategy seemed to be to take something already dead, give it a jolt and Weekend at Bernie’s it under a new name until it starts to smell, then give it a jolt… E.g. , plays for sure, Zune Music, Groove music, Xbox music. Also Communicator, Lync, Skype, Teams etc.

Ya, it seems less that they killed it, and more so they just rebranded or released a successor product. Microsoft mobile wasn't killed, it was replaced by windows phone.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by LightG »

mdoms wrote: post #35
tryptophan wrote: post #16

Wunderlist is still alive as Microsoft todo though isn't it?

I think it's a totally different product? Could be wrong though.

It seemed to be a rebrand or rewrite ... but it was never the same and I gave up on it.

Haven't tried it recently so cannot remember the features they dropped, but was damned annoying. Wunderlist was fine. MS Todo was basically the same without some key features that I used.

I gave up on it considering the developer timescale was snail pace...

How tf do the big boys get "todo" so wrong?

Google completely fluffed Google Tasks ... despite it having some really impressive features like "add email to tasks", best implementation I've seen of it. Which is a shame as the rest of the To do app is not worth anyones time.

MS as well ...

/endrant

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by weberer »

The_rationalist wrote: post #10

How did microsoft academic compare to researchgate/google scholar?? Very sad I only hear about it now... I mean it's so absurd that people care enough to build websites like killed by microsoft and killed by google but yet no one built a alive by microsoft and alive by google. Where can I find an exhaustive and succinct/bullshit free timeline of their products launches + short, to the point description?

https://about.google/intl/ALL_us/products/#all-products

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by Kuinox »

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases.

Examples:

Skype For Business => Teams.

Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge.

Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ???

Office Viewer => Web Based Office

Kinect => It's not dead ???

Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender

Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product alive is where they are one of the best in the industry.

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