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Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by beachstartup »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #106
beachstartup wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the "top of the line bleeding edge" is a porsche 918, not a tesla. p85's are nice but let's not kid ourselves here.

Oh come on now. I can fit my entire family in a Model S (with luggage) and still do 0-60 on 2.8 seconds. That is, by definition, bleeding edge. At this point a Porsche is a glorified garage queen. EDIT: A Porsche 918 MSRP is almost $845K and it's only 0.6 seconds faster than the Model S (P85D). They've made less than 1000 units. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_918

are you new to the car scene? you sound exactly like a car forum troll from the 90s. like word for word.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by beachstartup »

aidenn0 wrote: post #114
beachstartup wrote: post #94

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even worse, i live in LA.

Yeah SoCal has some really short on-ramps. I'm in Santa Barbara, and regularly see people hit the end of some of the sorter ones at about 35 when the freeway is going 70.

part of the reason that stretch of 101 is perma-fucked with traffic.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by error54 »

beachstartup wrote: post #71
adam12 wrote: post #53

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Of course it doesn't make them responsible. I just don't think someone should be driving like that unless they are on a test track.

i punch it at full throttle to 65mph every time i use an on-ramp. i bought a performance car to use it as advertised. perfectly legal, and appropriate, when traffic permits. in fact, if you don't, you're probably a shitty driver and need to learn how to merge. when you're merging into a river of steel doing 80mph and you're doing 45 because you're watching the consumption meter on your hybrid, you're an asshole.

I used to think the same thing until my friend got a ticket for "exhibition of speed."[1] Essentially yes, you can get a ticket for accelerating too quickly even you're just accelerating to the speed limit.

1 - http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal...

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by jlgaddis »

Shivetya wrote: post #125
rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

All I see is that early adopters who made a purchase are happy with it. That out of the way, if anything a 100k car with 250 odd mile range if you drive nicely simply proves the technology is not ready for the everyday driver. Get to the point you can deliver 300 to 500 miles per charge at the same price point the average car purchase is at and call me. Its a rich man toy that you have to adapt to live with and don't…

Geez, I can go more than 250 miles on my Harley that only has a six-gallon tank.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by varelse »

kylec wrote: post #62
eclipxe wrote: post #27

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"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

When it comes to in-car controls, you want to be able to use them without taking your eyes off the road. To this end, knobs that you can grasp for and feel the current setting are great. Knobs without a tactile indication of the current setting are OK, as you can find them without looking and only glance down to see that you are selecting the appropriate setting. Buttons are worse because you have to glance down to f…

This is where I always thought HUDs would come into play. And yet, apparently, mostly, no...

One could probably have integrated this into Glass as well, but given the snail's pace of Android Auto (and the raging quality issues of Android in general), no yet again.

I would have loved a HUD manipulated through steering wheel controls. From what I've heard, this was too overwhelming for the previous generation of American drivers. I wonder if the next generation would fare better.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by ajtaylor »

Gracana wrote: post #111
chabby wrote: post #54

Just my 2 cents: I've driven both a P85D and a 2014 Porsche 911 4S cabriolet fairly extensively. Guess which one I decided to buy? The Porsche. These might not be two cars that are commonly cross-shopped, and the Tesla does beat the Porsche to 60 mph. Still, the Porsche was clearly the winner in just about every other way in my estimation. Anyone else have a similar experience?

> the Tesla does beat the Porsche to 60 mph I wonder if it would do it 60 times in a row. http://www.thesmokingtire.com/2014/see-how-good-porsche-laun...

The sound of the engine made me drool. And being able to do it hands off... that's some damn fine engineering and software!

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by eclipxe »

kylec wrote: post #62
eclipxe wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

When it comes to in-car controls, you want to be able to use them without taking your eyes off the road. To this end, knobs that you can grasp for and feel the current setting are great. Knobs without a tactile indication of the current setting are OK, as you can find them without looking and only glance down to see that you are selecting the appropriate setting. Buttons are worse because you have to glance down to f…

Tesla has steering wheel (physical) controls that map to Radio, AC, etc.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by eclipxe »

calbear81 wrote: post #35
eclipxe wrote: post #27

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"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

I'm also not a big fan of the giant touchscreen in a dashboard. I like tactile controls (even better if there's haptic feedback) since once I remember a motion, it can become second nature without constantly looking at a touchscreen to see if I touched something correctly. Call me old fashioned, but there's something very satisfying about turning a well made physical dial with a certain amount of resistance and weigh…

Have you driven a Tesla for any period of time?

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by toomuchtodo »

beachstartup wrote: post #141
toomuchtodo wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh come on now. I can fit my entire family in a Model S (with luggage) and still do 0-60 on 2.8 seconds. That is, by definition, bleeding edge. At this point a Porsche is a glorified garage queen. EDIT: A Porsche 918 MSRP is almost $845K and it's only 0.6 seconds faster than the Model S (P85D). They've made less than 1000 units. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_918

are you new to the car scene? you sound exactly like a car forum troll from the 90s. like word for word.

I'm 32 and male. I'm from the practical scene, not the car scene.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by eclipxe »

kylec wrote: post #82
dublinben wrote: post #58

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Nearly all drivers go less than 50 miles in any given day. Trips longer than 70 miles (still well within the range of a Tesla) make up one percent of trips. A premium electric car like the Tesla is perfectly capable of being a daily driver for essentially anyone.

Maybe what's different in my case is that I was looking to only own one car. While the Tesla might be sufficient for what I need 90% of the time, I still need it to be able to go on long trips, because I do take them occasionally.

Rental?
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