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Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by rsync »

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale.""

A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.

I'm not even sure who it is for ... people who don't use the Internet ? People who don't read news ? You've got a car that is substantially better in almost every conceivable category (it generates all wheel drive with two different motors, for instance) ... and the press release for the 7 series is going on and on about how advanced their new engine is and bragging about their (laughable, in light of the model S) 0-60 time.

Basically it's 20 pages of "blah blah not electric blah blah". It's painful to look at.

OBLIGATORY: Not a huge Model S fan, at least in terms of size (not really a full sized four door) and interior appointment (which is amazingly sparse and devoid of options compared to 7/A8/S) ... and further, would much prefer a 7 series or Panamera on a fully-electric platform. But we don't have that, so I guess we have to settle for "the best car we've ever tested".[1]

[1] http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/27/teslas-p85d-is-the-best-car-c...

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by loceng »

3327 wrote: post #6

what a bullshit report. I mean I like tesla but this report starts with bullshit and ends with bullshit. 103/100 ? 200 mile range?

In highschool, grade 11 computer science I got 101% end of year grade; the average of the class was 100%: the person who got 99% was barely in class however completed their assignments, and I got 101% because I would quickly finish my assignments and then was happy and excited to help others if they were running into trouble. I quite wish my other classes were scored that way as well... TL;DR There's nothing wrong giving credit where credit is due.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

#14

Post by dharma1 »

dragontamer wrote: post #3

That is frankly ridiculous. Tesla's previous car getting 99/100 (which never happened before) wasn't enough, so now they push 103/100? I understand that its a great car, but if the consumer report scale is out of 100, then it should stay out of 100. Pushing their scale beyond the boundary causes a "Spinal tap" situation and I fail to take the review seriously anymore. It goes up to 11 belongs in comedy movies, not se…

Tesla Model S volume goes to 11 ;)

http://imgur.com/nHTBRJf

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

#15

Post by FireBeyond »

rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

I'm going to guess that it doesn't get that performance or fuel efficiency when hauling seven people, though.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by zippergz »

rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

Having driven both a 7 Series and a Model S, I'll take the BMW any day. More comfortable, better handling, looks better, doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard, and allows road trips with far less planning needed. It's nice that the tesla has insane acceleration, but in practice that's not super useful. And gas is a small enough part of my budget that it's not material so that isn't really a factor.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

#17

Post by tptacek »

rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

Just an aside that raw 0-60 time is probably not the kind of driving performance you're buying a BMW for.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by nitrogen »

FireBeyond wrote: post #15
rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

I'm going to guess that it doesn't get that performance or fuel efficiency when hauling seven people, though.

Once a car is at cruising speed on mostly level ground, weight doesn't matter nearly as much as aerodynamics.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by vvanders »

tptacek wrote: post #17
rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

Just an aside that raw 0-60 time is probably not the kind of driving performance you're buying a BMW for.

Which is why I'll take the Tesla every single time.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by dragontamer »

darkerside wrote: post #10
dragontamer wrote: post #3

That is frankly ridiculous. Tesla's previous car getting 99/100 (which never happened before) wasn't enough, so now they push 103/100? I understand that its a great car, but if the consumer report scale is out of 100, then it should stay out of 100. Pushing their scale beyond the boundary causes a "Spinal tap" situation and I fail to take the review seriously anymore. It goes up to 11 belongs in comedy movies, not se…

Blame TechCrunch for the blogspammy headline. The original Consumer Reports review states clearly that it scored a 103 based on their existing framework, which they adjusted in lieu of that fact. | In rating it, however, we faced a quandary: The Tesla initially scored 103 in the Consumer Reports' Ratings system, which by definition doesn’t go past 100. The car set a new benchmark, so we had to make changes to our sco…

Thanks.

The consumer reports article is more direct and practical. I can understand the car breaking new barriers and that they had to tweak their rating system.

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