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Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by mikeash »

eclipxe wrote: post #27
zippergz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having driven both a 7 Series and a Model S, I'll take the BMW any day. More comfortable, better handling, looks better, doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard, and allows road trips with far less planning needed. It's nice that the tesla has insane acceleration, but in practice that's not super useful. And gas is a small enough part of my budget that it's not material so that isn't really a factor.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

I think people who haven't actually driven one (or haven't driven one beyond a test drive, anyway) think that it's too distracting, too hard to control things while driving, or something along those lines.

I had the same concerns initially, but they disappeared after trying it out. It's really well done and not a problem in practice.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by dmix »

This is offtopic but the video of peoples reaction using the 'insane' button in the Model S P85D was some really great marketing for Tesla:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaLgF1uLB8

The feature is a novelty but it makes for great social media bait. I never share links about cars with family/friends but I felt compelled to this time. It's entertaining because the car is completely silent while it pins them back in the seat - and people are having very honest reactions to the experience.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by funkyy »

eclipxe wrote: post #27
zippergz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having driven both a 7 Series and a Model S, I'll take the BMW any day. More comfortable, better handling, looks better, doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard, and allows road trips with far less planning needed. It's nice that the tesla has insane acceleration, but in practice that's not super useful. And gas is a small enough part of my budget that it's not material so that isn't really a factor.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

There is many reasons, but major for me is that you need to look at the screen when switching AC, performing simple tasks. With regular buttons you can memorize where is what and not look at them when switching options which increases the safety. Also large screen is distracting, BMW 7 focuses on driving and comfort removing from in front of your eyes anything that could tire your eyes.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by calbear81 »

eclipxe wrote: post #27
zippergz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having driven both a 7 Series and a Model S, I'll take the BMW any day. More comfortable, better handling, looks better, doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard, and allows road trips with far less planning needed. It's nice that the tesla has insane acceleration, but in practice that's not super useful. And gas is a small enough part of my budget that it's not material so that isn't really a factor.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

I'm also not a big fan of the giant touchscreen in a dashboard. I like tactile controls (even better if there's haptic feedback) since once I remember a motion, it can become second nature without constantly looking at a touchscreen to see if I touched something correctly. Call me old fashioned, but there's something very satisfying about turning a well made physical dial with a certain amount of resistance and weight.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by jerf »

loceng wrote: post #12
3327 wrote: post #6

what a bullshit report. I mean I like tesla but this report starts with bullshit and ends with bullshit. 103/100 ? 200 mile range?

In highschool, grade 11 computer science I got 101% end of year grade; the average of the class was 100%: the person who got 99% was barely in class however completed their assignments, and I got 101% because I would quickly finish my assignments and then was happy and excited to help others if they were running into trouble. I quite wish my other classes were scored that way as well... TL;DR There's nothing wrong gi…

I always wished I could take my extra credit out of one class and apply it to another. I didn't know the term in the modern gamer sense at the time, but I would have minmaxed the heck out of my school years.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by [deleted] »

eclipxe wrote: post #27
zippergz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having driven both a 7 Series and a Model S, I'll take the BMW any day. More comfortable, better handling, looks better, doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard, and allows road trips with far less planning needed. It's nice that the tesla has insane acceleration, but in practice that's not super useful. And gas is a small enough part of my budget that it's not material so that isn't really a factor.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

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Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by barrkel »

eclipxe wrote: post #27
zippergz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having driven both a 7 Series and a Model S, I'll take the BMW any day. More comfortable, better handling, looks better, doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard, and allows road trips with far less planning needed. It's nice that the tesla has insane acceleration, but in practice that's not super useful. And gas is a small enough part of my budget that it's not material so that isn't really a factor.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

Physical buttons are far, far better than touch buttons when you're driving. Keep your eyes on the road, use tactile sense to figure out the button to press, once you've learned where it is.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by toomuchtodo »

tptacek wrote: post #17
rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

Just an aside that raw 0-60 time is probably not the kind of driving performance you're buying a BMW for.

If you care about 0-60 time, you're probably getting a Corvette ZR1 or a Hellcat. If you want something with more than a Cobalt interior, a BMW or Lexus. If you want top of the line with bleeding edge tech, you get a Tesla.

Disclaimer: Tesla investor.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by johnward »

rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

I'm a Tesla fan but the 7 series still wins in "recharge" time.
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