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The feature is impossible to implement with the sensor suite that comes with the car.
The only currently known self driving system uses that same sensor suite (neural nets and cameras).
Mainstream full self driving would just create massive traffic and gridlock - pointless in the end. The induced demand would outweigh the benefits. States are better off acknowledging that sprawling car dependent cities are not sustainable. High frequency busses in the interim with rail transit is the real solution. Current self driving technology plus some key infrastructure changes with dedicated bus lanes and prio…
Tens of millions of people live in places where frequent bus service simply isn't practical. It's probably reasonable for society to make choices that overall incentivize against living in those areas, but that isn't going to change where people live anytime soon. And you can just use taxes to control any induced demand that comes from lower costs or new behaviors. The vehicles have sophisticated tracking systems and…
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Yeah, nothing else does that stuff. Which is I think the big disconnect in this discourse. People who want to take the anti- side can lean on "It's not complete!" as an argument, because it isn't. But in terms of capability, it's way ahead of the competition[1] And some of us want this feature and want to pay for it! And it works! So... I'm actually fine with renaming it. People shouting "fraud" on the internet want…
Other driver assist/hands free driving systems do lane changing and still clarify they aren’t self driving. The most important metric for self driving is the distance a car can travel before it needs assistance from an occupant. That’s what self driving is . Tesla is very far behind the leaders here. Also, Tesla might not in theory be geofenced, but in practice it will refuse to drive on many roads making it effectiv…
That's reductionist to the point of meaninglessness. A car limited to a specific track could keep going autonomously until it breaks down, thus having an infinite metric on the distance a car can travel before it needs assistance from an occupant, yet practically it could easily be useless as a self-driving vehicle.
Being able to handle self-driving without being restricted to carefully chosen "good spots" and instead being able to generalize is at least on par in importance with distance the vehicle can travel.
Also, the vehicle determining that it can't handle a certain road well enough yet is a desirable feature and isn't really comparable to a bunch of people deciding if a certain road is safe for their vehicle before allowing it to self-drive there, as the latter simply isn't practical at scale.
Mainstream full self driving would just create massive traffic and gridlock - pointless in the end. The induced demand would outweigh the benefits. States are better off acknowledging that sprawling car dependent cities are not sustainable. High frequency busses in the interim with rail transit is the real solution. Current self driving technology plus some key infrastructure changes with dedicated bus lanes and prio…
The metric to judge assisted driving technologies is primarily safety. Driving is not safe and I suspect will appear insane to a future generation. Which generation and how soon is another question. However, what the US needs to massive investments in rail, which address both safety and traffic.
What's FSD mean?
How times have changed since Tesla was untouchable here. What happened and why does everyone talk like they've always hated Tesla (and Elon)? Surely it's mostly the same crowd as when Tesla was loved and Elon a superstar.
Musk spoke political heresy.
How times have changed since Tesla was untouchable here. What happened and why does everyone talk like they've always hated Tesla (and Elon)? Surely it's mostly the same crowd as when Tesla was loved and Elon a superstar.
I remember getting hooked on the FSD fraud story sometime in 2019 and seeing many negative Musk/Tesla comments since that time.
There’s always been some fanatic Musk supporters leaping to defend/apologize, but at least to me, it feels like the skepticism has been strong here for quite some time.
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Really? Do you find Uber and Lyft to be affordable or a financially sensible means of regular transportation?
The idea is that the cost of a ride would go way down because you don’t need to compensate a driver.
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The feature is impossible to implement with the sensor suite that comes with the car.
The only currently known self driving system uses that same sensor suite (neural nets and cameras).
FSD = Future Self Driving