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Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by js2 »

_ktx2 wrote: post #122
bee_rider wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we should emphasize that Sourcehut is just currently free while it is in alpha. Mr. DeVault been very upfront about the fact that he's planning to start charging eventually. From his FAQ, https://man.sr.ht/billing-faq.md#why-should-i-pay-when-githu... The point is to set up a responsible financial situation between himself and the users and avoid the bad incentive structures that "free" services have ("Free"…

Does SourceHut still have an aversion to Kubernetes and Docker? Last year I was trying to setup SourceHut on my home infra (which is Docker/SystemD based, but was Kubernetes based) and I was told I'd be banned if I asked about it, and that they don't support that kind of software. Super weird interaction from someone I otherwise used to admire.

This is Drew's position:

https://paste.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/78cc21e1661d5a9d8038f47e532d28...

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by jeroenhd »

RamblingCTO wrote: post #111
brabel wrote: post #65

Shame that they don't seem to support the European Self-Sovereign Identity Framework for registration: https://essif-lab.eu/ I am really hoping that this will take off and soon all Europeans will be able to prove they have the right to get services without having to reveal their full identity... and I think this is a great framework for registration to services like this as well.

This will probably be a corporate-circlejerc like GAIA-X again. The website is just bad at explaining what's going on. It reads like an academic paper and is not user friendly at all. Do you have any experience with that?

Looks like a bunch of cryptocurrency/blockchain people scooping up government funds: https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards

This could be the real start of web3, but I'm pessimistic about the way most of the homepage is talking about funding more than about the problem being solved. The rest reads like a whitepaper.

Maybe blockchains are the right technology here (though I doubt it) but the people writing the documentation were the wrong people for the job.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by jeroenhd »

sandGorgon wrote: post #75

there is also gitbucket - written in scala on the jvm https://gitbucket.github.io/

Kind of ironic to host the website for a (partial) Github alternative on Github.io.

Never heard of this before, but I don't think this operates in the same space. Codeberg is a hosted platform, Gitbucket is a self-hostable platform. I think it competes more with Gitea and maybe Gitlab than Codeberg.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by User23 »

strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Let's not forget https://savannah.gnu.org/.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by DoctorDabadedoo »

StevePerkins wrote: post #117
Blackthorn wrote: post #34

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I no longer trust bitbucket after they shut down their mercurial support. That was the thing that differentiated them from everyone else. Why even use them now?

To be fair, hardly anyone ever used Bitbucket due to Mercurial support. Some people probably used it because for awhile, pre-GitLab, it was the GitHub alternative with the most generous free tier for private repos. However, the overwhelming majority of users probably use it because they're already in the Atlassian ecosystem due to JIRA.

Bitbucket is like an ex girlfriend you don't quite recall why you broke up with, but afterwards every time you meet her and hear her voice it all comes back in a rush how disgusted she made you feel.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by 3np »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #46
proxysna wrote: post #14

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Nice to Woodpecker CI getting some traction. Great software for selfhosted ci. Simpler to start than Jenkins, not as flexible ofc, but most projects do not require that amount of flexibility and footguns. Woodpecker one of the best tools for small/medium self-hosted CI's out there atm.

Ooh yes it's the Drone clone! I haven't used Woodpecker, but Drone is fantastic. Can't wait to use this next time I need a self-hosted CI.

Not really clone. It's a fork from the last commit under a free license, after which Drone changed theirs.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by xwowsersx »

sangnoir wrote: post #88

I'd like to plug self-hosting via Gitea. I have it running on a Raspberry Pi Zero(!) and it works really well[0]. I no longer star projects on GitHub: instead, I mirror them onto my Gitea server which periodically syncs in changes with a cadence of my choosing[1]. If a project I depend on ever gets deleted from GitHub, I'll have a reasonably up-to-date copy. If you have a Pi in a drawer somewhere, or an underutilized…

What kind of machine (specs) would I need to run to self-host gitea with decent performance? Small container or EC2 instance (or droplet), etc should be enough?

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by xwowsersx »

xwowsersx wrote: post #137
sangnoir wrote: post #88

I'd like to plug self-hosting via Gitea. I have it running on a Raspberry Pi Zero(!) and it works really well[0]. I no longer star projects on GitHub: instead, I mirror them onto my Gitea server which periodically syncs in changes with a cadence of my choosing[1]. If a project I depend on ever gets deleted from GitHub, I'll have a reasonably up-to-date copy. If you have a Pi in a drawer somewhere, or an underutilized…

What kind of machine (specs) would I need to run to self-host gitea with decent performance? Small container or EC2 instance (or droplet), etc should be enough?

Err...I guess you sort of answered my question since you're running it on a raspberry pi :P Performance seems just fine? Curious to hear more about your experience. Thanks!

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by sph »

dspillett wrote: post #130
_ktx2 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does SourceHut still have an aversion to Kubernetes and Docker? Last year I was trying to setup SourceHut on my home infra (which is Docker/SystemD based, but was Kubernetes based) and I was told I'd be banned if I asked about it, and that they don't support that kind of software. Super weird interaction from someone I otherwise used to admire.

Some Kubernetes and Docker people get somewhat religious about it, and rather than taking “I/we don't support that and don't have any immediate plans to, but feel free to try it yourself” as a valid response will plead, nag, and otherwise try to cajole a project's maintainer's to reconsider, sometimes being irritatingly persistent and calling into question a person's overall intelligence because they don't currently…

Bah, what a dumb argument. There's a whole ocean between "we don't really support Docker, you're on your own" and "if you dare ask this again, you'll get banned." That's not the Kubernetes guys being religious here.

Also, it doesn't even make sense on the engineering point of view. I understand not liking Docker the company or Kubernetes the product, but Linux namespaces are a kernel level facility, and banning people because they dare ask how to integrate this product with a native subsystem seems absolute zealotry from people with oversized ego.

Nothing wrong with that, but let's call a spade a spade. It's their project, so it's their right to be a prick about it, but that shouldn't stop other people to call them out on it.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by dspillett »

sph wrote: post #139
dspillett wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some Kubernetes and Docker people get somewhat religious about it, and rather than taking “I/we don't support that and don't have any immediate plans to, but feel free to try it yourself” as a valid response will plead, nag, and otherwise try to cajole a project's maintainer's to reconsider, sometimes being irritatingly persistent and calling into question a person's overall intelligence because they don't currently…

Bah, what a dumb argument. There's a whole ocean between "we don't really support Docker, you're on your own" and "if you dare ask this again, you'll get banned." That's not the Kubernetes guys being religious here. Also, it doesn't even make sense on the engineering point of view. I understand not liking Docker the company or Kubernetes the product, but Linux namespaces are a kernel level facility, and banning peopl…

> There's a whole ocean between "we don't really support Docker" and "if you dare ask this again, you'll get banned."

There is. And I'm suggesting that the water filling that ocean has come from having the same discussion over and over again with people who have asked in the past, each thinking they might be the one to finally help you see the light. I've not personally dealt with it from the point of view of infrastructure choices, but I hear tale of those who have, and I've been subject to it with regard to people who didn't agree with a licence choice so can speak for how much it makes you not want to engage at all just-in-case.

I'm not suggesting you'd be like that, but I understand not wanting to engage on the matter based on previous experiences.

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